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2017/03/12 19:07:22
AdamGrossmanLG
Hello,

I am trying to bounce softsynths to audio tracks using the "Bounce To Track(s)" function, but it seems like it does not record the effects I have in that softsynths Prochannel.  How can I bounce the track with the effects of the Pro Channel?
 
Am I not doing this right? I basically am trying to commit a softsynth to audio.

Thank You,
Adam
2017/03/12 19:15:17
jb101
Bouncing the track should include the PC.
 
 
2017/03/12 19:21:06
jb101
Was "Track FX" checked in the Bounce To Tracks dialog box?
 
This should bounce the PC as well.
 
I just tried it and it did work as expected.
2017/03/12 19:29:00
John
I would use freeze and as JB notes make you have FX checked for the freeze. If you have your softsynth in the synth rack the options are a right click on the freeze icon. 
2017/03/12 19:35:42
jb101
+1 to freeze synth.
2017/03/12 23:32:18
AdamGrossmanLG
thank you all...  very weird, only in one project this is happening.   Yes, it does appear that the pro channel does get bounced normally.  Who knows.
 
Is this the proper method for comitting VSTs to audio?   Should I instead make an audio track and have its input be the output of the VST and then add FX to the pro channel?

What is proper method for committing VST to audio?
 
Thank You,
Adam
2017/03/13 00:34:22
jb101
I don't know about "proper", but I would agree with John and freeze the synth, this is what I do all the time.

If you want to permanently convert it to audio for some reason, then bounce to tracks works fine.

As to why it is not working in this instance, a little more information may just help.

What synth?

S.I.T. or separate audio and MIDI track?

How are you bouncing to track?

Is correct track selected when you do?

Is PC bypassed?

Are FX bypassed? eg. accidentally hit *e" key before bounce, etc.

Is PC definitely switched on prior to bounce?

I will have another think after a much needed sleep.
2017/03/13 17:27:42
kennywtelejazz
I like to keep it real simple ...
My typical workflow since the prehistoric days of SONAR 6 PE has been to always freeze my synth tracks . This way I will always have a representation of the "exact sound " that had made me happy in the first place
Then once my VST synth track is frozen I will create a new audio track and slide the frozen synth track over to it ...
I do this because it's one of my ways of keeping my hard work safe . The new audio track has all the edits and effects that I had wanted on the track in the first place at the time of freezing ....
I also do it this way because it offers me a very safe playground in which to experiment.
 
Taking it another step further ,
The original frozen synth track can be edited even though it is frozen with one small thing to always consider ...
The second I unfreeze it I will lose all my edits and hard work and the track will revert back to the state it was before I froze it in the first place ...
In my style of work flow I actually find that to be a comfort ...
I can now work with out fear or the element of second guessing myself to the point of hesitation  
The original frozen track can be rearranged , sliced and diced , and be brought to new places I may have been afraid to have brought it to in the first place ....
For the record , I always find something I like better in the frozen track I have edited so I make sure to always bounce that over to a new audio track for safe keeping
 
Taking it another step down the road ,
I have found it to be very beneficial to incorporate a very simple rule when ever I freeze a track and slide the frozen synth audio over to it's own audio track for safe keeping ....
Once I have hit that point of workflow in my project I will always save my project before I do another thing ...
I do this because I can always get back to where I was if need be ....
 
This is very simple to me , yet to somebody else it may sound complicated ...I can understand that yet I will still argue my case ...
Why is this simple ?
Lets say you have your frozen Synth kicking  a$$ all over the place in your song . You may feel  that for some odd reason it sounded good as it was , yet after doing a little editing and rearranging of your frozen synth you happen to prefer the swells of the way the oscillators did their thing at bar 15 . You may  want that exact same sound and section of your performance for bar 37 ....
Well , while it is still frozen you can extract the section you want and copy and paste it over to the appropriate place in your songs time line  just make sure you bounce it over because once your synth has been unfrozen the track the synth is on will always go back to it's pre frozen state ...
 
who says you have to accept a static performance ...
 
I'm gonna stop here , I could go further ...with talking about stuff like saving the frozen synth over to it's own audio track and then unfreezing the frozen synth to use it again w different patches to create layers ...
that would be a different subject than what the OP was asking about ...
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
2017/03/13 21:41:39
chuckebaby
I also prefer Freezing over bounce to tracks (almost the same thing).
2017/03/13 22:36:59
Keni
I always use freeze here as well.

Always have a hard copy of the sound/performance.
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