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  • Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user... (p.6)
2017/03/03 12:53:50
PJH
Thanks, everyone for the kind comments regarding the song. It's much appreciated.
 
It appears that a lot of Sonar users feel the same way I do. Well I'm very happy with Sonar and will carry on using it.
 
@ Chris, yes, I do agree - who says that a track has to be around 4 minutes?
 
Cheers
 
Peter.
2017/03/03 13:10:20
JohanSebatianGremlin
PJH
 
@ Chris, yes, I do agree - who says that a track has to be around 4 minutes?
 
Umm.... I believe it was Billy Joel.  "It was a beautiful song, / but it ran too long / If you're gonna have a hit, you gotta make it fit / So they cut it down to 3:05." ;-)


2017/03/03 13:21:39
LJB
I stopped worrying about what other people think about my DAW years ago. I am always busy, my clients sell thousands of albums and frankly, the Batman v.s. Superman p*ing contest is for insecure children. Your ears, your room, your skill with mics, your hardware and your people skills make much more of a difference than what happens once the stuff has been turned into 0s and 1s. I have heard awful stuff come out of PT HD systems tracking through SSLs and Neves, and I have heard awful stuff come out of SPLAT setups. And great ones too, from every DAW imaginable. You put out a great production, no one who matters cares how you did it except to steal your ideas. SPLAT has all the features I need to make my clients happy, and some of them have gold albums to show for it.

Relax, make your music, blind them with your science :O) 

2017/03/03 14:19:57
pilutiful
Little do they know it's not about which DAW, it's about the engineer behind the DAW.
2017/03/03 15:22:23
tenfoot
pilutiful
Little do they know it's not about which DAW, it's about the engineer behind the DAW.


Maybe the artist/s on the other side of the microphone make a bit of a difference too:)
2017/03/03 15:49:35
pilutiful
tenfoot
pilutiful
Little do they know it's not about which DAW, it's about the engineer behind the DAW.


Maybe the artist/s on the other side of the microphone make a bit of a difference too:)


One things for sure. It's not about the daw. Which is my point. 
2017/03/03 16:14:50
bitman
The natural feelings of adequacy  is felt, if you succumb to them, at one time or another by every DAW user that's not ProTools today. Much like it is cooler to have a particular mobile phone or guitar or even mobile service. The superiority of a particular product's fit for you is all that matters, so silently stare down your detractors - it's fun.
 
I ran a public studio for a decade the SONAR 6,7 & 8. When people would ask, do you use, or is that, ProTools, i would delight in saying, "No, Sonar" with the utmost matter of fact-ness and moving on with the conversation or the setting up of mics. Leaving them with their own feeling of doubt since I seemed to not own any.
 
As a friend of mine used to say, F$%^ em!
 
This applies in so many situations.
Using SONAR will make you a better, stronger person.
 
 
2017/03/03 16:47:13
Anderton
The Grim
as to the pro tools boasting about track freeze yada yada, you might say sonar is now boasting about ripple editing, but wait on reaper has had that for years, see what i mean? so what? sonar users also made a big who har about the new routing in sonar, reaper has had superior routing than sonar for years, and some would say still has, so what? (i'm no pro tools fan, and reaper isn't my main daw, just saying)



Then again, people aren't going into Reaper forums or Pro Tools forums and saying "Why don't you guys have Mix Recall? Why do I have to pay $300 for a vocal alignment tool when SONAR has one built in? SONAR does DSD import/export, I deal with Japanes clients, when are you guys going to get with the program? Why do I have to record an entire session at 96 kHz just to make two or three synths sound better...SONAR has had that for two years? Why do your programs do such a crappy job of importing Acidized files? And why can't you edit them to make them better? Why don't you have ARA integration, like SONAR and Studio One? Why isn't your Drum Replacer as good as SONAR's? SONAR's step sequencer has all these automatable functions, why don't you? And why do I have to ReWire Live into your program - SONAR has a Matrix view? I can't generate tab from your program, either. I still have DirectX plug-ins, SONAR lets me use them and you guys don't?" 
 
When you look at it from this perspective, I think Cakewalk has done a terrible marketing job of SONAR's advantages. So there are all these people who don't use SONAR doing negative marketing, and SONAR users doing positive marketing because they really like the program - but only in this forum, because they're too busy making music to go into other forums and complain about what other programs don't do that SONAR does 
2017/03/03 18:52:43
rodreb
I record bands/artists on a regional scale here in my home studio. I have used Sonar since my first switch from analog tape to a DAW. I feel that my recordings sound "Professional" and, I am happy with Sonar (Sonar Platinum at this point).
One song I recorded by The Paul Allens made it into the Red Band Trailer for the Matthew McConaughey movie, "Killer Joe". I have many bands I have recorded with my Sonar system doing just fine and selling lots of their albums. One of those bands has been opening for several major acts (they have opened for The Pretty Wreckless, Bon Jovi, etc.) and no one has ever not bought their album because it was recorded on Sonar.
I can also attest to the fact that my buddy here on this forum, "chuckebaby", is consistently recording very professional projects on Sonar.
Personally, I think Cakewalk needs to up their marketing game. They need higher visibility. I agree that there needs to be more in depth videos on Sonar Platinum out there. Hands on videos of people using Sonar in the studio, recording actual bands would be nice, etc.
Bottom line, Sonar Platinum is a great DAW. Yes, there are a few things I wish it had that it doesn't but, I believe that can be said about most any DAW.
Also, to the original poster, "PJH".... I heard your song the other day on the Recording Mag site.... Awesome job! Sonar certainly didn't hinder your results in any way!
(Here's link to the "Killer Joe" trailer. Warning! Explicit language!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M12DPZgW_E
2017/03/03 20:25:35
tenfoot
pilutiful
tenfoot
pilutiful
Little do they know it's not about which DAW, it's about the engineer behind the DAW.


Maybe the artist/s on the other side of the microphone make a bit of a difference too:)


One things for sure. It's not about the daw. Which is my point. 


Absolutely. No offence intended Pilutiful - just a little jest:)
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