Bristol_Jonesey
Yes, the comment from bobernaut "what they think is so great about Pro Tools, and they usually just say, "Its just better" reeks of the same terminology used by Apple iTards.
 
Fact is, iOS DOESN'T "just work" and neither does PT

 
Exactly. The last time someone said "and I plugged the mic into the Mac because it sounds better" and I then asked "Okay, tell me why the mic sounds better plugged into a Mac" and the response was "Two words: driver latency".
 
I nearly spit coffee all over the keyboard.
 
And it was a $200 mic with USB output (so, built in A/D). No offense intended to users of those kind of mics -- I only mention it to say that he wasn't using a hallmark mic to test "Mac vs. PC".
 
ObOT: I know at least one studio owner that has Pro Tools "because too many of my customers ask if I have it so I have to be able to say yes", but he never uses it.
 
Chris
 

joeb1cannoli
How many guitarists play Strats because of Jimi Hendrix or Les Pauls because of Jimmy Page.

An old usenet saying: "Jimmy Page sold a lot of Les Paul's playing a Tele."
 
Chris
 

McMoore11
Btw, I started on Cakewalk Pro.

I think I started before Pro came out, when it was just called Cakewalk and the company was named Twelve Tone Systems. It was long before Sonar.
 
Chris
 
 

"That's a great photograph -- what camera took that picture?!"
 
 

NotASpeckOfCereal
ObOT: I know at least one studio owner that has Pro Tools "because too many of my customers ask if I have it so I have to be able to say yes", but he never uses it.

ObOT? Whut's that then?

Friends, all of our DAW inquiry conversations must go like this:
 
THEM: Hey, what DAW are you using to record that?
 
YOU: If I told you, I would have to kill you.
 
THEM: [takes a step back]
 
 
On the other hand, you might have an exchange that goes like this:
 
THEM: Hey, what DAW are you using to record that?
 
YOU: If I told you, I would have to kill you.
 
THEM: Oh, you use SONAR too? Awesome! [high-fives]

JohanSebatianGremlin
 
ObOT? Whut's that then?

Ob = Obligatory
OT = On Topic
 
Because the main part of my reply was OFF topic (going off on a Mac vs. PC tangent) from the original post, I finished my post with something that was relatively ON topic, Pro Tools (vs. Sonar).
 
It being obligatory to you depends on how closely you adhere to the posting etiquette of staying at least somewhat on topic, being respectful to the original poster.
 
Chris
 

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
 
FWIW I used to run into the same thing when I was working as a computer repair tech. People would ask if I had MCSE certs because at tee time, MCSE certification was being heavily advertised in mainstream media and thus was the ONLY certification layman knew existed. And then I would have to explain that an MCSE cert for the most part qualifies one to properly configure and maintain a Microsoft Server environment and administer the group policy settings associated with that environment. At which point I would then ask are you calling me to fix your home computer via my yellow pages ad because you need someone to properly configure the group policy settings on your Microsoft Server? 
 
In their perception, the measure of any computer tech worth his salt was having an MCSE cert because the MCSE cert was the only cert they had ever heard of. Today for your typical hack musician, the measure of any studio worth its salt is whether or not said studio has pro tools because pro tools is the only DAW your average hack musician has ever heard of. 

PJH
I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.

Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)

@Peter nice music and clean, powerful mix! I really like the drums.
Why has there not been an update to MIDI? It's in everything! pTools was there first (does not make it better) but it's everywhere.
Time travel to the past: It's like the PC vs Mac (I started with Macs) Mac's were implemented in the education system first. PC were Frankenstein DIY monsters with no driver compatibility. You could build your own PC but not guarantee drivers, software and Hardware would work. That eventually changed and the past 5 years have been mostly great for comparability.
PT was a complete package including preamps. SONAR was still not marketed very well and not in as many studios.
My friend and I used PT for Voice-over work in the studio, but I edited all the files in SONAR, I hated pTools editing.
I've continued using Cakewalk 3.0 - SONAR X4 PT. Also Cakewalk support is very helpful!