• SONAR
  • Tired of feeling like I have to make excuses for being a Sonar user... (p.9)
2017/03/06 00:16:23
kitekrazy1
Steve_Karl
PJH
I have to say that I'm becoming a bit pi**ed off at the general perception of SONAR.

Sounds to me like you care about what other people think. Eliminate that and the problem is gone. :-)






POST OF THE WEEK.  Once again anyone buying music could care less what DAW is used.  How many leave the arena because Deadmau5 or Armin van Buuren isn't using Pro Tools?
2017/03/06 00:17:26
kitekrazy1
The coolest thing about Sonar is you can audition synths by using midi files.
2017/03/06 01:13:40
Chris J
konradh
A good producer can make a hit record with Sonar, ProTools, Logic Pro X, Cubase, Studio One, or any other professional DAW.  I bought Sonar because it had more features and was bundled with more plugins. This forum is a pretty good reason, too.
. Nicely said!
I went to a Recording 101 seminar last week (I'm new to the world of DAWs, Im an analog guy from way back) the instructor said he liked to show his clients that he had Pro Tools, then he would usually use Cubase. Interestingly enough, he used Sonar Platinum in his presentation! How many people also have to apologize for using Presonus?
2017/03/06 04:53:10
JohnEgan
Chris J
I went to a Recording 101 seminar last week (I'm new to the world of DAWs, Im an analog guy from way back) the instructor said he liked to show his clients that he had Pro Tools, then he would usually use Cubase. Interestingly enough, he used Sonar Platinum in his presentation!



Now that there is funny, LOL.   
 
2017/03/06 13:54:49
JohanSebatianGremlin
declan
I have no doubt much negativity about Sonar are Mac users, but it still puts off many new users in general.  



That's not been my experience. One of my best friends is a life long PC guy. Never used a Mac, can't stand em'. I was already well acquainted with Cakewalk when he went shopping for his first DAW. To be fair, at that time Cakewalk (the program, not the company) had just added the first audio recording capability and thus was still to be considered a full blown MIDI sequencer with some rudimentary audio recording capability. Because of this, he opted to go with Protools.
 
And he struggled with it. A lot. Together we both learned the software and figured out its MANY quirks. Fast forward a few years, I was now using Cakewalk pro audio at home and Protools at his place. My system still didn't do everything audio-wise that his could do, but mine could do most. And it was stable. Meanwhile, his projects took forever to load if they loaded at all.

I still remember the frustrated phone call after yet another 90% completed project refused to load and would need to be done over.
Him: That's it I'm done with Protools.
Me: Great. Listen not for nothing but Sonar more or less does everything Protools does and its pretty stable.
Him: Yeah, Sonar's kind of a sequencer primarily and I need audio so I think I'm going to go with Nuendo.
Me: Nuendo? What's that?
Him: Its based off Cubase and I hear good things about it.
Me: The only thing I know about Cubase is I tried a demo version that came with my M-Audio card and I thought it was the most illogical thing ever invented.
Him: I'm going to try it.
 
Fast forward a year or two.
 
Him: I'm switching to Cubase.
Me: Why?
Him: Everything I really need Nuendo to do, it doesn't really do.
Me: You know, Sonar works great for me.
Him: Yeah, no.
 
Fast forward another year or two.
 
Him: I'm switching back to Protools.
Me: Why?
Him: Cubase is so gat dang illogical I just can't take it anymore.
Me: Happy trails.
 
I don't even suggest Sonar anymore. Why bother? He's gone full circle leaving every platform out of frustration. Meanwhile I've been on Sonar and happy as a clam and I don't even bother to suggest it anymore because its clear he will just never hear it. And I'm sure he's not the only one. For better or worse, Sonar will always be the software that evolved from a MIDI sequencer and therefore isn't a real DAW in the minds of many of those who have never even tried it.
 
2017/03/06 15:37:18
azslow3
What a lol topic...
 
I am not pro musician, but if someone is surprised by the text editor I have used to write particular program (can be Vi, Emacs, Geany, Visual Studio, Eclipse, MC editor and several other...) or even compilers I have used, I am not going to comment on that. For me that is an indication the person does not understand what programming is and what can influence the result and what can not.
 
2017/03/06 15:55:58
JohanSebatianGremlin
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a file created in a text editor, should open just fine in pretty much any other text editor. That's not the case with DAW project files, so collaboration becomes an issue, or at the very least an additional challenge, when your friends are on a different platform. 
2017/03/06 16:22:48
azslow3
JohanSebatianGremlin
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a file created in a text editor, should open just fine in pretty much any other text editor. That's not the case with DAW project files, so collaboration becomes an issue, or at the very least an additional challenge, when your friends are on a different platform.

If a program is just a text file, then a song is just a WAV file...
But if your friends are inside Visual Studio and you are cross compiling with MinGW, you can have even more troubles then collaborating between Sonar and PT
 
But original opened question was "How did you manage to achieve this using SONAR???" and not "How did you manage to work with studio XXX which is using PT only?".
2017/03/06 17:04:53
Blackiejames7
As a professional studio musician, for many years I have recorded a wide variety of musical genres in studios with all types of digital audio workstations.  I think that in the recording world of today the choice of a DAW is based on what you are comfortable with and the bottom line is results. I have heard great records come out of Pro Tools and I have also heard some real garbage out of Pro Tools.  Its all about how you use it.  I have been a Cakewalk user since 1999 and have been using Sonar Platinum exclusively with superb results. Nobody has ever questioned the DAW used but rather just how they enjoy the record. Its all about getting the desired result and how comfortable you are with the workflow of your studio setup.  I personally don't care about what others say because Sonar works for me.  I am not all that impressed with Pro Tools and I have had no issues with Sonar. Most of the artists that come into my studio do not know the difference between Pro Tools, Sonar or any other platform all they want is a great recording and with Sonar Platinum and my expertise that's exactly what they receive. 
2017/03/06 18:49:48
dwardzala
I don't think the problem is on the engineering side - it's uninformed artists that only know protools and assume that every other program is third rate.
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