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2017/02/23 11:31:40
brconflict
So, some of my sessions are beginning to require PT (sessions already created in PT). I still can't believe how klunky that App still is. Talk about some old, heavy code! No bashing intended, just disappointed in the undustry's profuse "blind leading the blind" methodology. Dude, there's better ways unless you REALLY need the big hardware desk.

I do love their larger faders, larger meters, and stereo pan, but Sonar is still a big win for me. Sonar's gotten much more efficient these days, and to the point it seems to out-perform PT, just starting up and opening a session! The Sonar editor still needs some performance/reliability love (I still see crashes and crazy things happen with Paste here), but fix these things and PT won't have many more excuses...
2017/02/23 12:51:27
Sanderxpander
I don't know, I think a lot of it is in the skill of who is behind the machine. I'm happy with my workflow in Sonar but I've seen guys work really fast in ProTools. Knowing a lot of shortcut keys make a huge difference (in any DAW, really).
2017/02/23 13:21:10
Jimbo 88
I'm going to second the OPs point.  Protools is what it is in my work world because of it's connection to AVID and working with picture.  I have the latest Protools version on my computer so I can work at home and service my clients.   I port over to Sonar every chance I get.   Mainly 'cause I know Sonar better,  but as I get to know Protools I still find things way better in Sonar.  As far as composing music, which is what I did for 20+ years, there is no comparison.  Protools is just clunky.  Even with Sibelius as a notation app.
2017/02/25 04:30:03
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
brconflict
I do love their larger faders, larger meters, and stereo pan...




3 feature requests in half a sentence, which many of us would love to see: larger meters and faders should be somehow customizable in size and color, track faders possibly following colors of channels they output to
 
BTW, mixbus 4.0 also now brings a stereo width knob on the console view, so Sonar will need to follow.
 
As regards other comments on PT vs Sonar - what you know best will always work best. Through the years I've learned Sonar inside out, which is really handy for any kind of work now ... that's why e.g. in my case mixbus has its place for certain tasks, but will not replace Sonar anytime soon ...
2017/02/25 07:29:01
chuckebaby
there are some features I really enjoy about PT.
But it just seemed like at some point, PT stopped growing and didn't expand as much as Sonar has (by adding more features). but PT is what it is, A DAW that gets the job done.
2017/02/25 15:11:52
Chris J
A month ago I tried using Pro Tools First, it worked for one weekend just fine, the second weekend I tried to use it, it would not open properly, plus everytime I tried to open it, I got a different error. I'm now on a 30 day trial of Sonar, and, so far, have seen only very minor problems. For me, the Sonar workflow is very logical, but like any good software, you have to use it and learn the process.
To be clear, I am running Windows 8.1 on an i7 dual core laptop computer. Perhaps I would have had more success with PT if I was running it on a Mac.
2017/02/25 15:36:56
slyman
I'm a die hard Sonar user, but at the end, if you're at ease with your DAW, you have fun and it sounds good...
 
2017/02/25 22:25:02
Unknowen
Rob[atSound-Rehab]
brconflict
I do love their larger faders, larger meters, and stereo pan...




3 feature requests in half a sentence, which many of us would love to see: larger meters and faders should be somehow customizable in size and color, track faders possibly following colors of channels they output to
 
BTW, mixbus 4.0 also now brings a stereo width knob on the console view, so Sonar will need to follow.
 
As regards other comments on PT vs Sonar - what you know best will always work best. Through the years I've learned Sonar inside out, which is really handy for any kind of work now ... that's why e.g. in my case mixbus has its place for certain tasks, but will not replace Sonar anytime soon ...


Was it just me or did the PT faders not work in real time, the changes didn't happen until after I set the fader? lot of good that is if you want to hear what you're setting. and no mouse rollover wheel action at all.
2017/02/25 23:22:11
gswitz
One of Craig's tips shows how to build your own stereo width control with channel tools and an FX chain. I know this isn't what you want, but it might help.
2017/02/26 09:51:37
brconflict
gswitz
One of Craig's tips shows how to build your own stereo width control with channel tools and an FX chain. I know this isn't what you want, but it might help.


Flux Plugins has a great free plug-in for Stereo width.
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