AndertonThere's a reason why Propellerheads and Ableton canned their communities, and also, why they won't be the only companies to do so.

that's not right, as well you should know! unless you're mis-using the word "communities" you know full well that they cannot be created or destroyed (canned) but only serviced, or not-serviced... if companies are withdrawing from servicing the communities that spring up around their product(s), those communities will just move elsewhere, but they will still exist...
and fwiw, withdrawing from servicing a community that grows up around your company's product says far more about the product and the company than it does about the community...

You should use whatever works best for your workflow.  Reason is a wonderful and I've used it for years. 
There's no reason why you only have to use one tool.
 
Good luck!  
 

TigerTheFrog
You should use whatever works best for your workflow.  Reason is a wonderful and I've used it for years. 
There's no reason why you only have to use one tool.
 
Good luck!  
 

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To prevent the volume on the FM8 from being lowered goto the Event List View and insert a CC7 with level you want the FM8 to play at the very beginning. If for some reason you have other CC7s in the track and don't want them delete them. Once that has been done you can have reset controllers without problems. 

John
To prevent the volume on the FM8 from being lowered goto the Event List View and insert a CC7 with level you want the FM8 to play at the very beginning. If for some reason you have other CC7s in the track and don't want them delete them. Once that has been done you can have reset controllers without problems. 

and what if i am not starting playback at the very beginning?  

This is not something one should have to do.  Maybe it shouldn't be getting random CC 7 messages to begin with.

SilverBlueMedallion

John
To prevent the volume on the FM8 from being lowered goto the Event List View and insert a CC7 with level you want the FM8 to play at the very beginning. If for some reason you have other CC7s in the track and don't want them delete them. Once that has been done you can have reset controllers without problems. 

and what if i am not starting playback at the very beginning?  

This is not something one should have to do.  Maybe it shouldn't be getting random CC 7 messages to begin with.

Sorry for repeating that, one more and for the last time from me:
Sonar IS NOT injecting any MIDI, and it IS NOT changing synth parameter. It is you, your equipment or your installation which does that fancy things. At least there was no single prove that is usual for other users.
 
Sonar has some inconvenient behavior with MIDI, which is the same for everyone. Just inconvenient, nothing serious.
 
Sonar has some small bugs in MIDI, confirmed by other. All of them are triggered in quite special situations only. They are not in the list of your complains.
 
Sonar does not support MIDI routing. Sonar does not really support MIDI FXes in VST format. That is in the future requests for long time, but that is not a bug. It is simple "not there yet". Using VST MIDI outputs is A WORKAROUND to somehow support VST MIDI FX. Far from perfect. Has several problems, including known and not mentioned by you.  And it is known that using this workaround is a nightmare as soon as you change MIDI devices, re-route something, etc.
Sonar also can not prepare food. It is possible to insert  tons of plug-ins and start playback, that will drive CPU to the limit, it will produce a lot of heat, so theoretically cooking something. But it is pointless to complain that does not work perfectly.
 
Sonar is DIRTY CHEAP for the value of third party software coming with it. If you sum even cheapest discount prices of AD2, Melodyne and all other included plug-ins, it is easy to prove you pay almost nothing for the DAW. It can not do EVERYTHING the way ANY PARTICULAR USER wants. There are other software packages, which provide other and sometimes better ways for particular workflows. They are also DIRTY CHEAP. Think about it other way: all your $$ spent for Sonar can at most cover ONE programmer for ONE day....
 
 

SilverBlueMedailion
 
Sonar Does support MFX they helped create it. No they don't support MVST which is a Steinberg thing CW had MFX long before MVST came.
 
The reason to insert a CC7 at the beginning is to get your synth at the right volume at the beginning. This will be active through the track unless there is another CC7 encountered. 
 
In a way I get the impression you know a small subset about MIDI but don't have a good overview of it. 

John
SilverBlueMedailion
 
Sonar Does support MFX they helped create it. No they don't support MVST which is a Steinberg thing CW had MFX long before MVST came.
 
The reason to insert a CC7 at the beginning is to get your synth at the right volume at the beginning. This will be active through the track unless there is another CC7 encountered. 
 
In a way I get the impression you know a small subset about MIDI but don't have a good overview of it. 

Wrong.  If nothing else is making it into my track, the CC 7 should just stay where I leave it in the softsynth.  It only gets moved when:
 
1.  Enable MIDI out is enabled on another VST
2.  The input of the track recieving the CC 7 by error is set to "NONE" (which actually does OMNI but is mis-labeled - see this thread - http://forum.cakewalk.com/Is-There-Anyway-To-Disable-Enable-MIDI-Out-When-Inserting-Softsynths-m3539913.aspx#3542538
 
this has nothing to do MFX, not sure why you are even going there.

It is simply being routed from another VST.

SBM isn't interested in any solution that involves a work around. He wants it to work the way he thinks it should work, full stop. This thread should be locked because none of our suggestions has been listened to. There have been genuine attempts to help but he simply isn't interested.

ampfixer
SBM isn't interested in any solution that involves a work around. He wants it to work the way he thinks it should work, full stop. This thread should be locked because none of our suggestions has been listened to. There have been genuine attempts to help but he simply isn't interested.

I see your point.