Cool! now the whole thread is about folks describing how midi works. 
 

ampfixer
Cool! now the whole thread is about folks describing how midi works. 
 

 
ah right, because "NONE" actually SHOULD mean "OMNI".  got it.  

SilverBlueMedallion

gustabo

SilverBlueMedallion
Yes, I WILL need to start at the beginning of the track... that's the point!

Wrong.

 
OK, my volume on my synth is being controlled by erroneous data, so someone told me to insert a CC 7 value (volume) at the start of my track so it resets the volume.... how on earth will it reset the volume to that parameter if I am not starting at the beginning of the track where the CC 7 value is manually entered in.  

besides, I shouldn't have to do that anyway if erroneous MIDI data wasn't making its way into the track

There is something called "Controller searchback before play starts".

gustabo

SilverBlueMedallion

gustabo

SilverBlueMedallion
Yes, I WILL need to start at the beginning of the track... that's the point!

Wrong.

 
OK, my volume on my synth is being controlled by erroneous data, so someone told me to insert a CC 7 value (volume) at the start of my track so it resets the volume.... how on earth will it reset the volume to that parameter if I am not starting at the beginning of the track where the CC 7 value is manually entered in.  

besides, I shouldn't have to do that anyway if erroneous MIDI data wasn't making its way into the track

There is something called "Controller searchback before play starts".

 
Oh ok, cool.  I have that turned off, it was suggested from another issue I am having with presets not saving correctly.   Cool feature.

hmmm actually according to this, it appears that function does not search back for any and all CC data, just 
patch change, wheel, and pedal events.  so i dont think thats it.  
 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Playback.33.html
 
 

Life is about time, priorities, and decisions. That is pretty much it. If a situation does not suit someone, either adapt to what is, overcome, or move on. If someone truly wants to do something, they will make it happen by using one of those vehicles to do so.
 
Unfortunately, I have met so many people who will spend 90% of their time finding reasons not to achieve that if they had spent it on doing, then they would have already gotten things done. I am more convinced that certain people default to this behavior.
 
A simple word of advice is to take in responses, read them for what they are, and decide accordingly. The time you save will benefit the rest of your life (i.e., use it on something meaningful).

SilverBlueMedallion
hmmm actually according to this, it appears that function does not search back for any and all CC data, just 
patch change, wheel, and pedal events.  so i dont think thats it.  
 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Playback.33.html
 
 

Your ignorance about what you want astounds me!
What do you think pedal and wheel events are? They're CC info.
Without testing it, you'll never know!

(It's Cakewalk's fault for not seeing you coming, they should have listed every single CC# )

What was that quote by someone famous, about repeating the same action again and again, expecting a different outcome each time?

 
 
Anderton, the user is telling me to put a CC 7 control in the beginning of my track to ensure the volume is where I want it.   Yes, I WILL need to start at the beginning of the track... that's the point!  I shouldn't have to if Sonar's "NONE" wasn't actually acting as MIDI Omni for input!  Don't you get it?

Also did you see the steps here?  http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3542477
 
How can you say this option is "working".   you seriously are flat out saying now things are working as is, when they CLEARLY aren't.  What is that "Enable MIDI Output" option there for, when you see it doesn't do ANYTHING!

But I understand as a VP of Gibson, this thread could potentially sway new users away from a purchase, hence you have to make it look like there is no problem and its a user error.  
 
I can't actually believe after looking at my 4 steps you are still saying this is by design!!  The checkmark actually DOES NOT DO ANYTHING!!!  IT - IS - BROKEN!

How is that by design?  What you are saying makes no sense now.... just anything to make this not look like a Sonar issue.  Unbelievable.




It's standard procedure to place at the start of every track all the MIDI controllers at the default values you want them to be at.  For example, here's a typical MIDI track starting at 1:00:01:
 
Control 7         127
Control 11       127
Control 18       0   (this is the controller I used for attack time)
Control 19       85  (I use this controller for release time)
Control 22       (controls which cell (articulation) is called up for my VSL library
Control 33       (controls the vertical dimension of cell choice (articulation)
Control 44       (determines whether patches with built-in crescendo/decrescendo start as crescendo or 
                       decrescendo
Control 55       (humanizes playback by introducing a controllable amount of pitch variation
 
All these controls are at the top of every track.  For softsynths, whatever controller I assign to a parameter I do the same thing:  at the top of the track the default controller values are always there.  If you don't start playback at the top of the track, MIDI searchback takes care of that by defaulting to the last controller value.  I assume you are aware of MIDI searchback and how to activate it.
 
A lot of people seem to be trying to help you, but either we're not getting what you're saying or you and Sonar are simply not a good match.   Sonar's MIDI functions are excellent, in spite of the fact there are some bugs. 
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

gustabo

SilverBlueMedallion
hmmm actually according to this, it appears that function does not search back for any and all CC data, just 
patch change, wheel, and pedal events.  so i dont think thats it.  
 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Playback.33.html
 
 

Your ignorance about what you want astounds me!
What do you think pedal and wheel events are? They're CC info.
Without testing it, you'll never know!

(It's Cakewalk's fault for not seeing you coming, they should have listed every single CC# )

either way, I shouldn't have to put any CC 7 data in there if CC from other softsynths wasn't erroneously making changes to other softsynths.