SilverBlueMedallion
I would hardly say my post lacks objectivity.

 
Of course, you would.
 
The title of this thread is about as as subjective as it gets, because while most people are willing to help one another, they don't need to need to know that you're about to leave, about how you paid good money, and so on.
 
We all paid good money.

No asking for smiley's, just the facts. It's a public forum and it's about Sonar - not you.

SuperG

SilverBlueMedallion
I would hardly say my post lacks objectivity.

 
Of course, you would.
 
The title of this thread is about as as subjective as it gets, because while most people are willing to help one another, they don't need to need to know that you're about to leave, about how you paid good money, and so on.
 
We all paid good money.

No asking for smiley's, just the facts. It's a public forum and it's about Sonar - not you.

no one NEEDS to know I am about to leave and how I paid good money - BUT it is true, so why not?   I don't see the need to filter how I feel about the product in the products forum.

What I don't get is why it bothers you?   Can you not separate the DAW and the 'self', hence someone leaving the DAW is leaving you?

SilverBlueMedallion
no one NEEDS to know I am about to leave and how I paid good money - BUT it is true, so why not?   I don't see the need to filter how I feel about the product in the products forum.

 
So why do so?
 
It actually takes effort to subjectivize an issue, so it's certainly not filtering if you do not do so.  It comes off as pandering, especially so in an alarmist fashion.
 

SilverBlueMedallion
What I don't get is why it bothers you?   Can you not separate the DAW and the 'self', hence someone leaving the DAW is leaving you?

 
No, you're projecting there. I'm simply responding to this thread because it interests me. Many people have have posted to this thread, and there seemed to be something missing in why some people thought you might be an attention seeker. I needed to put my finger on it, as they say.
 

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ampfixer
If you feel strongly that Cakewalk is messing up, the best thing to do is let your feet an wallet do the talking.

You can't after you've paid for lifetime membership. No more money to give. Well not until 2037

markyzno

Resonant Serpent

Anderton
 
That said, the specialty of one of Cakewalk's new engineers is MIDI. 

Thanks for the heads up. This is the best news I've heard in a while.

Seconded!

Same here! Great news! 😊

SilverBlueMedallion
 MIDI data recorded all over the place that shouldn't be, etc...
 

I don't have that problem.

Wonder what I'm doing wrong?

As for Sonar being mistly used in home/project studios, that's almost certainly true of all DAWs. Even
Pro Tools after it split from the HD system that required a limited range of extremely expensive hardware.

tlw

SilverBlueMedallion
 MIDI data recorded all over the place that shouldn't be, etc...
 

I don't have that problem.

Wonder what I'm doing wrong?

As for Sonar being mistly used in home/project studios, that's almost certainly true of all DAWs. Even
Pro Tools after it split from the HD system that required a limited range of extremely expensive hardware.

 
you must not play a lot with MIDI-out from synths

SilverBlueMedallion
...you must not play a lot with MIDI-out from synths

I think that would be a true statement for most of us. The only synth MIDI-out I use is the 5-pin DIN cable from my Kronos. I'd be interested to learn how you use this feature. Perhaps I'm missing something cool.

SilverBlueMedallion
 your comparison to Abelton live not having Mix Recall is not valid here.  Abelton Live TOUTS itself as a DAW catered for live performance right?   You don't need Mix Recall in a live environment.  

 
I know how Ableton Live touts itself, I wrote the manual for Version 2. Live not recording solo button presses is solely a live performance issue. The reason it's buried so deep in the code that Ableton can't fix it is because Ableton considers it a diagnostic tool when using Live in the studio. They do not say Live is solely for live performance and never have. That's why there are two separate views. Live performance is their priority. Audio recording, editing, mixing, and improving the efficiency of same is currently SONAR's priority.
 
Nowhere have I said your complaints aren't valid (except where you didn't know the program well enough to do something, so I told you how to do it). But if I had a problem with synths not retaining settings when freezing (although that hasn't happened to me), I wouldn't freeze. I'd save the preset first, bounce to audio, archive the track in case I needed to use it again, and continue making music. And I didn't call your posts a "tantrum." Many users apparently feel the way to get the attention of software companies (or Comcast for that matter), is to do public tantrums. I said I would not take that approach. 
 

Anyway, the thing is.... just working with other DAWs for the last 2 days.... I feel I am stuck with Sonar simply because the learning curve is just too great.   It will literally take me months to learn a new DAW, all its shortcuts, how to do the same things I do in Sonar, simply because I am a long time Sonar user.

 
If you know how to use a DAW, you can learn another DAW's basics in a few days. You can make cool projects in a week. You can become proficient in a month. In a year, you can become expert enough to create a laundry list of all the things you hate about it. 
 

I just want the MIDI stuff to work as touted.

 
Who doesn't? I want all functions in all software to work as touted. But consider that in some cases, just because something doesn't work the way you want it to doesn't mean there isn't an option. For example, you may find it an  impediment to your workflow that SONAR doesn't preserve notes of 4 ticks duration when converting from PRV to SS. Yet SONAR has a Find/Change function where you can change those notes to 4 ticks.  
 
Read what I write. I'm not disputing your complaints. I'm disputing your approach of trying to effect change. Nor am I disputing that you are frustrated. My question is whether you want to solve your problem. If so, I see four options: 

• Learn another DAW (but do so with realistic expectations).
• Choose another program to work with SONAR (e.g., a ReWire client) that fills in any gaps SONAR has.
• Learn to work within the limitations of what you have.
• Continue using SONAR, and hope that your priorities coincide with those of other users and therefore are prioritized as fixes.

I do think insisting that your only option is Cakewalk fixing all bugs is not an option. Choose one of the options that are available now, and get on with making music. Meanwhile, I've said everything I've wanted to say and it's clear you won't respond to several of my comments that merit a reply. So, I'll spend my time helping others get the most out of SONAR, which is not only the intended purpose of this forum, but I think also represents a more productive use of same.
 
(P.S. I'm not sure you're aware of what's involved in doing a fix. First it has to be reproduced. Second, it has to be fixed. But the third and often lengthiest process is QC. It has to be tested with all operating systems Cakewalk supports, including 32- and 64-bit, as well as any other SONAR variants [like SONAR Artist] that require the same fix. It also has to be tested in different hardware systems, from clean installs to computers with tons of programs on them. Then it has to be released to beta testers. This is why CW tends to do batch fixes on related functions so that, for example, multiple Matrix View issues can be addressed and tested all at once.)