• SONAR
  • Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You (p.32)
2016/06/05 14:08:18
lludwick
I can see not spending money on Sonar updates if that is your choice. I am happy with the program as it has been as an annual subscription. With 4life, I am not obligated to spend another dime and I still get updates. This has never been true for any other DAW available although someone mentioned FL having a similar policy. Look at other DAWs most are now subscription and if you don't keep up the subscription, you can't use the product at all.
 
I had Cubase many years ago and I liked the product, but the company had no regard for its users. I was told not to even discuss their policy of requiring a hardware key by their mods on their board. Also, they would not respond to tech support requests because the contacts were dead links. I gave up Cubase even though I liked the DAW just for those reasons.
 
Besides Cubase the only other DAW I would consider is Pro Tools, but of course, that is too expensive and absolutely requires a subscription.
 
If I didn't like the deal, I can't see jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. However, I am happy with the deal even if eventually the product fails. Let's face it, if they sold this plan and then dropped the product for another new incarnation in less than a few years, the hate generated would be their downfall.
2016/06/05 14:43:52
Royal Yaksman
The Yak and Sonar got hitched as well...
 
Is it legal for Sonar to be married to so many people at the same time? I thought Cake was located in Boston, not Utah?... Next thing MTV is going to run a show called, Sonar Sister Wives... Anyway, Tuesday is my day with Craig, so back off b**ches!!!
2016/06/05 16:12:20
Blades
Certainly, it's anyone's individual choice to get the lifetime update deal or not.
 
In my case, I have not made a Sonar purchase in about 2.5 years - X3.  I got into the lifetime deal for $199.  If I had paid that $99/year sub for the past two years, that's how much I would have spent.  I HAVE now seen what the subscription would bring during those two years.  As long as I see that as worth the $199 it was for my lifetime sub, even if they never did another thing, I still got what I wanted, knowing what I was getting, and paid the same amount as I would have anyway (in the period where I didn't know what was coming).
 
So I look at it as anything they add from today forward, for me, is completely free.
 
Meanwhile, if you want to keep paying the $99/year, good luck, I hope it works out for both of us.  Either way, Cakewalk gets that money from both of us for the next two years (if you spread my lifetime payment over that period).  What they do with it remains to be seen.  If they do what's on the current rolling pipeline plus some other things they haven't announced, great!
 
Folks - it's really not that hard!  If it's a money grab, there's a business reason for it and if you think every dime you've given Cakewalk over the years wasn't to fuel a business, you are simply naïve.  If it's not a money grab and they are just looking to retain loyalty and are bringing people back into the fold that used to be very active (like me), then "thanks Cakewalk, you brought me back".
 
Enjoy your music making, whether you do it with your current version of Sonar and never update again, subscribe to the monthly, yearly, or lifetime model, or switch to another DAW that pleases you at the moment and inspires you to "do your thing"!
 
2016/06/05 16:24:19
Blades
Hey Vastman - I made the jump yesterday to the Lifetime sub.  I'm pretty excited to get going again.  I just need to figure out where to start.  I got everything installed yesterday, though I still need to do the Addictive Drums stuff.  I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.  At least I found that there is a thread going about the issues with it and I hope that it is corrected soon, as I'd really like to be able to use it in place of the V-Vocal (which was also a pain to get back on the system, even though it was already working in X3 - it had to be installed to appear in Platinum).  I was also disappointed that two bugs I've been watching be ignored for the last several years are still bugs.  They are not big show-stoppers or anything, just the kind of things that you say "How is this still a problem?  I can't be the only one who uses this feature that pretty clearly flat out doesn't work".
 
So far (otherwise) so good, though.  I plan on spending some time this evening getting AD installed and figuring out some things.
2016/06/05 16:42:13
Vastman
Blades
Hey Vastman - I made the jump yesterday to the Lifetime sub.  I'm pretty excited to get going again.  I just need to figure out where to start.  I got everything installed yesterday, though I still need to do the Addictive Drums stuff.  I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.  At least I found that there is a thread going about the issues with it and I hope that it is corrected soon, as I'd really like to be able to use it in place of the V-Vocal (which was also a pain to get back on the system, even though it was already working in X3 - it had to be installed to appear in Platinum).  I was also disappointed that two bugs I've been watching be ignored for the last several years are still bugs.  They are not big show-stoppers or anything, just the kind of things that you say "How is this still a problem?  I can't be the only one who uses this feature that pretty clearly flat out doesn't work".
 
So far (otherwise) so good, though.  I plan on spending some time this evening getting AD installed and figuring out some things.





 
Hey, Blades!  You'll love it once u get sorted... if you haven't filed a bug report, do so... bakers have been cleaning up loads of um and the "squeaky wheel" syndrome is a fact of life!  There's a whole forum for this now... it's good to flag the issues again, even if it's been done in the past.  
 
Go here:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/Problem-Reports-f77.aspx
2016/06/05 18:15:26
bapu
Blades
I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.  


Say wha?
 
I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER.
 
I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.
2016/06/05 19:43:47
Blades
Bapu - Check this post: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Melodyne-Essential-4-Crashing-Sonar-Platinum-m3371621.aspx
 
You will see that this is a verified issue.  I don't know the exact combo that makes it happen, but of course I got it on my first evening, repeatable over and over.
2016/06/06 04:31:09
tenfoot
bapu
Blades
I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.  


Say wha?
 
I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER.
 
I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.


The thread on this issue has puzzled me too. I have had the same seamless experience as Bapu with Melodyne, and have the same versions of software installed. 
I feel for those with a melodyne issue, but the proIeblem isn't universal which no doubt makes it much harder to pin down.
2016/06/06 09:36:19
FCCfirstclass
bapu
Blades
I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.  


Say wha?
 
I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER.
 
I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.




Same here. No problems yet.
2016/06/06 09:49:30
sergiosimoes
Hi. I opened 2 "cases" in the cakewalk pre-sales support without an answer. Can someone help me here?
 
My problem is: my platinum subscription will end in a few days (I paid a full one-year subscription a year ago). I want to buy the Lifetime Upgrades but I don't have the money right now.
 
If I let my platinum subscription expires, will I lose the option to buy the Lifetime Updates for $199 until Aug, 31?
 
OTOH, if i renew my subscription in a pay-per-month basis (before it expires), will I still be able to buy the Lifetime Updates in the same promotion by August after that? And, if I buy it in this condition, will I have to keep paying the monthly parcels until the last one after that?
 
It's confuse, I know. Cakewalk have not answered my questions (and I've posted days ago). Can someone help me? I need to know how to proceed.
 
Thanks
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