Any chance the Mac alpha will come earlier than fall? 
My selfish reason why I would like to see that happen:  I work in education.  I have extra time over the summer where I could be using Sonar and submitting bug reports (or allowing analytics to automatically report or whatnot).  Come fall, that extra time dries up.
 
However, it is more than just educators.  Students, of course, would also have extra time during the summer.  Heck, there a lot of jobs that have slow periods in the summer because of coordinated vacations or whatnot.
 
If Cake was worried about public complaining by people that don't understand that alphas are alphas (and full of bugs as a matter of course), it could be a private alpha with an non-disclosure agreement or some other protection for Cakewalk.
 
 

musicjohnnie
To all good day,
Just wanted to clarify that 'lifetime' is offered to me. I own pro. The price was 199. After pm to cake found that the price (which I am good until August) was inclusive of bumping me up to splat, then applying the lifetime price. So, 100 to upgrade to plat, then 99 to get lifetime. Still don't need plat, but would be nice to have lifetime on pro which is not available. Don't know why, since pro is carrying forward. But still a great deal. Hope this doesn't add confusion.
MJ

I have a very close friend in your exact situation.  He renewed his Pro about 6 weeks ago, he has zero need for SPLAT and I'm telling him to take this deal.  He's not returning my calls. :-).
 
I've said this before, but I was not intending to renew SPLAT this year.  I was very happy with what CW did in 2015, but there is this sort of a hollow feeling of spending $99 on something that you can't use yet.  So in my friend's case he's thinking: I'm spending $298 in 4 months for Sonar lifetime updates and for stuff I don't need?
 
There's a natural gag reflex there that has nothing to do with the offer.   

declan

musicjohnnie
To all good day,
Just wanted to clarify that 'lifetime' is offered to me. I own pro. The price was 199. After pm to cake found that the price (which I am good until August) was inclusive of bumping me up to splat, then applying the lifetime price. So, 100 to upgrade to plat, then 99 to get lifetime. Still don't need plat, but would be nice to have lifetime on pro which is not available. Don't know why, since pro is carrying forward. But still a great deal. Hope this doesn't add confusion.
MJ

I have a very close friend in your exact situation.  He renewed his Pro about 6 weeks ago, he has zero need for SPLAT and I'm telling him to take this deal.  He's not returning my calls. :-).
 
I've said this before, but I was not intending to renew SPLAT this year.  I was very happy with what CW did in 2015, but there is this sort of a hollow feeling of spending $99 on something that you can't use yet.  So in my friend's case he's thinking: I'm spending $298 in 4 months for Sonar lifetime updates and for stuff I don't need?
 
There's a natural gag reflex there that has nothing to do with the offer.   

no one "needs" plat to make music.  However, I'm really curious how just about anyone wouldn't want the extra features Splat provides over Pro, it is really a big jump to make music produections sound more professional easily.  The extra reverbs, better EQ control, the mastering plugs, those are for anyone and any type of music.  If you only record live instruments, the extra VST instruments might not be of value, but even using drum replace could have its place.  
 
Wouldn't use the Fly Out EQ?  I only see that if they purchased an EQ that cost more than the upgrade would already, and it can be added to every track with a few mouse clicks, controlled in groups thanks to prochannel, ect  
$300 isn't cheap, but if he plans to use it for years - splat offers a lot that pro doesn't...plus you don't have to think about what might develop along the way since you will get it.  

markoburrows
Both Cowboydan and yourself have convinced me that I am indeed an idiot and unable to communicate clearly. I did say "to convince me to scrap 10 months of investment" by which I mean, I upgraded to the Annual Platinum two months ago and therefore have 10 months to run. In my simple mind that means that if I upgrade again now - I will "waste" the 10 months I have yet to run before my subscription has competed. I am sorry for the confusion.
 
Without causing further confusion - (and I understand that as an upgrader of only two months and not having renewed that subscription I am not eligible for any discount - that is not where I am coming from), my concern/anxiety/need for clarification comes from the "limited" nature of the offer. August 31st looms and I am a pessimist.
 
 

Hi Mark,
 
>>I did say "to convince me to scrap 10 months of investment" by which I mean, I upgraded to the Annual Platinum two months ago and therefore have 10 months to run. 
 
Wait, you upgraded with an annual membership this year? Then you are indeed entitled to a discount on the lifetime updates package. Please take a look at the pricing chart on this page. 
Users who purchased an annual membership upfront this year, get discounted pricing on a lifetime update. In your case instead of paying $199 which a normal Platinum user would pay to purchase a lifetime membership, you will pay only $99. To see your price add this platinum with lifetime updates to your cart. In effect you are paying only the difference for a lifetime membership so you are not "losing" your remaining 10 months of annual membership. Even if we have this same offer next year (which is a big if even I can't answer), you would then be paying $199 at that point. So you aren't losing a dime by investing in lifetime membership today. 
 

Dear Mr Borthwick,
 
Thank you very much for your time. It is kind of you to suggest I get a discount. I have checked the pages as you suggested and logged in to "buy Now". The price I am being offered is £158 (which includes 20% VAT - 'Cause us Europeans like to overtax ourselves) and at current-ish exchange rates that works out about $199.
 
I have great faith in your systems so I checked my Platinum"registered date" and it is 20/3/2016. I am sure your algorithms have worked correctly and with this date I am unfortunately not eligible for a discount.
 
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. I will now go away and stop utilising your valuable time.
 
Your sincerely
 
Mark Burrows

Are you logged in Mark?
 
Followed the links and says $99 for me.. I purchased lifetime around the same time..

Dear Hayesf,
 
Good morning, you are up early!#
 
I would so love to be missing something, but...
 
Yes, I'm logged in the second link is interesting. I too followed it and it changed my name in the shopping basket to "Noel Borthwick". Whilst I'm sure Mr Borthwick would like me to take him up on his offer, I'm sure he wouldn't want to pay for it....
 
Best Regards
 
 
marko

Noel probably put his name in there to make sure you got the discount that he promised. You cant get anything beter than that.
 
Danny

Haha I saved that link while logged in to my account sorry about that. I removed the link.
However if you indeed purchased an annual membership THIS year you should be eligible for a discount. I will look into why its not showing you the discounted price and get back.
 
Edit: Our IT folks just checked your record and the price was indeed correct. Since you only purchased an annual for the first time this year your record is not treated as a "renewal" and more like a recent customer in that regard. Therefore you were in the normal price tier. Sorry if it confused you - sometimes discounting terms can get difficult to follow.
 

I have been using Soundforge as an additional editor in Sonar for years. I can't seem to find it in the latest version of Sonar Platinum. I checked the registry and everything appears to be correct. I had it set up so when I select a piece of audio I have the option to tweak it in Soundforge  pro 11 64 bit. Is there anything I can do to have it show up. Thanks -Angelo (Love Sonar!!!)