• SONAR
  • Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You (p.64)
2016/12/29 07:33:47
Zargg
pwalpwal
Zargg
pwalpwal
i've posted the question in the steam forum, there seems to be better/more official responses there...

What did they say over there? 


give seth a chance! i only just posted
 


Just curious..
2016/12/29 07:41:10
pwalpwal
Zargg
pwalpwal
Zargg
pwalpwal
i've posted the question in the steam forum, there seems to be better/more official responses there...

What did they say over there? 


give seth a chance! i only just posted
 


Just curious..


aren't we all!
 
2016/12/29 15:48:43
mikey
The Grim
ProjectM
What happens in 48 hours? End of fall?




or perhaps "beginning of the  fall" if those awaiting the mac alpha show their unhappiness should it not materialize on 'time'
 
in all fairness it's a big undertaking, and i guess they are damned if they do and damned if they don't with regards to saying something about a 'projected' or 'tentative' release time frame, glad it's not me, it would be a tough gig, but i am sure they are use to it by now. it will come when it's ready.




Yes its a big undertaking. An Advertised Sonar video of it running on a Mac undertaking.  It would also be fair if they gave us who bought Sonar Plat for our Mac "only" (waaaay back in August 2016) a status update per month or so. Why? Because Ive been sitting on my install investment since then.
2016/12/30 06:18:37
pwalpwal
"Still in development. Not much else right now besides that." (http://steamcommunity.com/app/380080/discussions/1/154644928863808096/ )
2016/12/30 07:31:31
jackn2mpu
pwalpwal
"Still in development. Not much else right now besides that." (http://steamcommunity.com/app/380080/discussions/1/154644928863808096/ )


About what I figured would be said. I'm thinking one of two things: either SonarMac won't be happening anytime in the near future (say 2017) if at all and the other is they're forgoing the alpha and beta and going gold release next year.
 
The development must really be a bear for them or it would have been done by now. Maybe they're getting religion and coding to support au format as well as vst format plugins? I mean you write a Mac program and don't support au? I know, I know ProTools doesn't support au natively and they have their own plugin format (aax).
 
Like a lot of others I'd really like to see SonarMac because of all the old Sonar 8P sessions I have hanging around. You know - do remixes/remasters with more sophisticated tools.
2016/12/30 10:25:37
Rain
pwalpwal
"Still in development. Not much else right now besides that." (http://steamcommunity.com/app/380080/discussions/1/154644928863808096/ )




Thanks for the update. 
 
In other words, we went from an official announcement with a set time for release to this...  I'm not impressed.
 
Not only did they not meet their deadline (which can happen - that's not really what bothers me) but they never followed up. 
 
Accountability means a lot in my book - especially for a company who wants you to buy into the subscription model...
 
 
2016/12/30 17:29:57
theycallmetim78
I agree.  I've been a cakewalk user since PA7 and held off purchasing Logic when switching to a Mac b/c of the announcement.  I understand it can take time.  But I'm running out of it....
 
The only thing that can make missing a date acceptable is early notice that you're going to miss the date.  
2016/12/30 17:39:41
Rain
On the bright side - ever since I've first upgraded OSX on my MacBook Pro a few years ago, I've seen a steady decline in performance and usability. 
 
I'd been meaning to revert to 10.6 ever since last summer, but in order to be able to test Sonar, I needed a machine with a more recent OS, so I stuck with El Capitan (10.11) on the laptop. My DAW runs Mavericks (10.9) and I refuse to mess it up by upgrading (lesson learned).
 
As of today, I have no reason not to downgrade - who knows what OS will be required when/if Cakewalk finally release their Alpha version, anyway...
 
So it's back to Snow Leopard for this guy, thanks to Cakewalk! :)
2016/12/30 20:57:32
wlow
I hope they are not trying to come out of the gate with the same feature set as the Windows version. I'd be fine with a basic macOS version to which they add back in features over the next few years.
 
I too am disappointed. Part of the reason I plunked down my money over the summer was for the promise that I would to be able to run a macOS Alpha by autumn. It's almost a little bait & switch. They really need to let us know what's up. If you're going to be late for dinner, you make they call. You don't avoid the call. They have to control the expectation narrative and not let us consumers spin our own ("probably won't be ready till end of 2017", etc.).
 
Really, they should have had a small team working on a contingency macOS version long ago, just to have an option (much like Steve Jobs had an Intel version of OS X in development while still shipping it on Power PC - bet they also have an ARM chip version of macOS in development now as well).   
2016/12/30 21:19:03
jb101
Firstly, Cakewalk never promised that there would be an Mac version of Sonar.
 
They never gave a release date for Sonar on Mac for that very reason.
 
They did say there would be an Alpha version to "test the water".
 
When a company, particularly one as small as Cakewalk, gives a "date" as vague as "fall", then I take it as an indicator, not a firm date.  I do not plan my life round it.
 
Also, comparing Cakewalk to a large multinational is a little unfair, they do not have the same resources.
 
Cakewalk have never let me down in the past, or shown themselves to be underhand in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.
 
If they said fall, and, let's face it, winter only started a few days ago, then I am prepared to cut them some slack.  I guess it's taking longer than expected.
 
As for a "lack of communication", I don't see a problem, either.  They said what they said, and are working towards it.  I genuinely hope that they are taking some time off over the festive season.  They deserve it.
 
I do not understand some people's attitude towards companies like Cake, as if they are "The Man".  I bet their car park doesn't have too many Rollers or Ferraris in it..
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