So after all this time I got this one fixed. There was two seperate issues here.
1) There is a mode on the pedal to use the downloaded driver (which supports ASIO, see learning already), so it was set at "standard" when it should be "advanced". Standard is used when using the windows driver hence the latency.
2) I hadnt selected ASIO under preferences/playback and recording/driver mode. It was set to WASAPI but this had bad latency.
Now my latency figures are
Input: 11.5msec
Output: 13.5msec
Total Roundtrip: 25.1msec
I dont know how good that is but it fine for me.
cheers