why can't the OP use the multi-out vsti version of flstudio inside sonar. 

rabeach
why can't the OP use the multi-out vsti version of flstudio inside sonar. 

This! I feel these two programs really complement each other nicely if you have a VST-heavy workflow. I love the MIDI and clip based aspects of FL Studio, but I always feel like I hit a brick wall in FLS once any sort of bouncing or audio file work is needed, and this type of stuff is just handled much more smoothly in Sonar for me.
 

The OP left the building (3 days ago).

I'm not going to read through the whole thread to check if anyone else has made the same points, but what immediately struck me was that if I'd had as many problems as this guy says he had with Sonar then I would have accrued way more than 33 forum posts (not including this one) in trying to rectify them. From another thread I read it seems clear that the guy didn't really make much of an effort to learn the software and clearly expect to be able to transfer his FL workflow to Sonar with far less effort. 
 
I get it, learning a complicated program is frustrating as hell when you don't know your way around it. Most people charge right in and feel that their awesome technical skillz will be enough to work out what's what. I went through lots of frustration learning Pro Tools and then I went through even more frustration when I switched to Sonar. What seems like second nature now was incredibly confusing when I first started and it's so easy to channel that frustration into a raging hatred of the program and everything to do with it. Try learning Adobe Illustrator or Premiere without a thorough reading of the manual, a textbook or video course. You will put your fist through the effing screen before the day's out, guaranteed. You will curse Adobe and their backwards ass way of designing a program, which clearly doesn't work correctly. Then you take the time to study how they work, and it doesn't seem so backwards ass, in fact it turns out to be quite positively forwards ass. 
 
I work primarily with MIDI and synths, but also some vocals and guitar. Sonar is versatile enough to approach music making with a building-block style philosophy in addition to the traditional track recording method. I use both approaches interchangeably and mix building blocks with long drawn out MIDI improvisations and audio performances. Ultimately I bounce everything to audio and then work with audio clips, switching back to VSTi's and MIDI if needs be. If you learn the software thoroughly then this workflow is not only doable, but very easy. Sure there are many improvements I'd like to see, but there's not a single DAW out there that has all of the features I want. Sonar has most of them, though.
 
This guy is perfectly entitled to his opinion, but we're also perfectly entitled to our opinion on his opinion. Personally I think he's quitting way too easily, especially in light of the investment he's made. If he stuck it out and made the effort to work through his problems I can quite easily see him looking back on this thread with embarrassment in a year's time. Or go back to Fruity Loops, whichever. 

sharke
 
This guy is perfectly entitled to his opinion, but we're also perfectly entitled to our opinion on his opinion. Personally I think he's quitting way too easily, especially in light of the investment he's made. If he stuck it out and made the effort to work through his problems I can quite easily see him looking back on this thread with embarrassment in a year's time. Or go back to Fruity Loops, whichever. 

Paying monthly makes the ability to leave SONAR much easier. I'm guessing he had a monthly membership plan - and realized SONAR was too dissimilar to FL Studio to work for him. C'est la vie.

Brando
The OP left the building (3 days ago).

Well, he is back to the forums today, just posting a few minutes ago in Craig's thread about end of song.
 

The most frustrating thing is investing a lot of time learning a product and then FINDING OUT IT CANNOT DO WHAT YOU NEED!
 
I have never had this problem with Sonar.
 
Either:
 
1. I'm looking in the wrong place, or:
2. It's done conceptually totally differently in Sonar, or:
3. What I want was indeed not foreseen by the Bakers, but because Sonar is so rich, you can get there in a roundabout way.
 
In all cases I have been helped by Sonar videos or guided by the most erudite and helpful brethren of this parish.

Every time that I have had a problem with Sonar I don't get pissed and write a nasty post.  I just go look into a mirror and find virtually all of my problems. Then I hit the forums, docs and videos to find out what I am doing wrong.
 
 

I believe these types of posts offer something positive:
 
1) Gets attention of people like me who may share some of the frustrations and perhaps stem a more stimulating way of expressing them in another thread, perhaps--gets me thinking of Feature Requests.
2) Gives the OP an opportunity to thank those who have (at least tried) helping his/her issues. 
3) Notes a program that might be better at something, and worth a look; I still find MIDI (now that I use it a bit) convoluted and cumbersome. Perhaps FL might be worth a try for building loops again? Haven't used FL in quite some time.
4) Gives the forum an opportunity to correct misunderstandings and tout the product does in fact offer what the OP might have truly wanted.
 
That last one is an interesting point. Although it addresses the issues stated, I hope it's not a polarized attempt to simply refute them. IMHO the frustration itself is great feedback, whether its in the Feedback channel or not. Getting users to use the proper channels is tough enough. Getting them to read the entire manual or watch all of the videos is also difficult. When a user is frustrated to burning eyes and smoking ears (I've certainly been there before), if venting the frustration in a forum is the swiftest place to rant, customers do that without reading the forum manual. 
 
I don't know exactly how Cakewalk works in feedback-to-improvement, but I am glad to see CW watch these threads and take feedback. I get the impression that has improved over the last 7-8 years I've been using Sonar. Typical companies still don't do this well. Even the ones who consider themselves Avid listeners...

I remember as a child going to a relatives for Christmas. When It was time to leave there we were standing at the door with coats on and the door open with sub zero temperatures outside. Mom had already said goodbye many times but there was still one more thing to say...  I clearly remember thinking these are the same adults that scold me for leaving the door open. 
 
Finally after breaking a sweat from wearing my full array of winter gear out into the cold we go.... with just one more final goodbye.