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2017/02/25 09:11:15
chuckebaby
noynekker
Does it include Audacity, do you have that ? . . . yes you do.


I know its wrong... but I laughed for quite a while after reading this.
2017/02/25 10:23:39
pwalpwal
Earwax
Well, to be fair, unlike Sonar, if he tries Ableton Live and doesn't like it, he CAN resell Live.
 
Just sayin'....................
 



yeah, although if he's in the EU he CAN resell sonar, just sayin ;-)
2017/02/25 12:03:18
KingsMix
jason r
Well I have been using Sonar since v3, but needs and circumstances mean I have to move to Ableton Live 9, so in order to help finance that can I sell (transfer my licences) to any members here, it will include 
 
Sonar X3e Producer
Pro Channel add ons
The included synths
Guitar Rig 4
and anything else I have forgot.
 
 
Not too sure on the process in this but welcome any interest. 
 
Everything can be verified with Cakewalk of authenticity with my account and products. 
 


Well, we'll leave the porch light on for you and welcome you when you come back home.
2017/02/25 12:04:40
pwalpwal
kvr's a good place to resell stuff  http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=43
2017/02/25 15:54:56
Earwax
pwalpwal
Earwax
Well, to be fair, unlike Sonar, if he tries Ableton Live and doesn't like it, he CAN resell Live.
 
Just sayin'....................
 


yeah, although if he's in the EU he CAN resell sonar, just sayin ;-)

True, and he's got roughly 2 years to go before Brexit slams the door.....
2017/02/26 08:33:23
jason r
A lot of collaborations I am doing lately are all Live 9 users (exception to one who has Logic), I tried the demo ages ago but yes never got on with it as too much to learn, but as said lately I have been in the studio working with guys on their Live 9 and really warming to it, I know Sonar so well for it's faults and great stuff and have never considered wanting to change.
 
One main gripe for me is it sometimes just seems closed to 3rd party integration  like at present I run a lot of NI hardware gear and the way NKS can run along side Ableton is superb, all the controls, automation and transport controls fit into it perfectly, once again something that Sonar gets left behind with (is this a lack of interest from Cakewalk or Ableton, I don't know?).
 
Had a great time with Sonar and not slating it, I still have huge soft spot for it, but EVERYONE I am working with is using Ableton, I need to make the transition and fit in with them and as mentioned starting to like some nice things with it.
 
So as expected Cakewalks response was just to mention the EULA contract, however I feel I should have every right or be able to transfer my licenses to another user rather than just let it vanish into thin air at great expense.
2017/02/26 09:04:51
Sanderxpander
I have to admit I love how Ableton handles midi routing if Maschine. I also love it for any kind of loop based production, and automation recording/knob mapping is easy and intuitive. I could never deal with its convoluted way of handling multiple takes though.

That said, if you have to change, sorry but Cake won't let you transfer the license. You could still keep Sonar in the toolbox, a few miles down the road you might find out it still has a place in your workflow. Once you've exported/imported tracks back and forth a bit and it becomes routine it's less of a hurdle to work with multiple DAWs.
2017/02/26 09:42:53
azslow3
Sanderxpander
That said, if you have to change, sorry but Cake won't let you transfer the license. You could still keep Sonar in the toolbox, a few miles down the road you might find out it still has a place in your workflow. Once you've exported/imported tracks back and forth a bit and it becomes routine it's less of a hurdle to work with multiple DAWs.

Note that the following is IMHO, I am not an lawyer.
As was already mentioned, that part of EULA is most probably void in EU... So as long as this copy was officially sold to EU customer and it was not time limited subscription/membership, it is possible to transfer it at will.
F.e.: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d1ff4369-afcc-4879-97fa-7a8afd8b3380
 
2017/02/26 09:50:48
pwalpwal
you will have to sell your whole account, which is how i believe they're handling it
 
and, for the record, just because something is in a EULA doesn't mean it's legally binding - your EU consumer rights allow you to resell unused software
 
you can find others doing it this way, for example on kvr, here's one http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=473860&hilit=cakewalk
 
good luck!
2017/02/26 10:44:20
Sanderxpander
Right, sorry, that is good to know. Wouldn't Cakewalk need to transfer the account though?
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