2015/04/28 19:46:11
subtlearts
well it was a whole heck of a lot longer than 12 minutes on my admittedly rather old and somewhat underpowered machine, but it did finish and does seem to work and most content is in place. The exception (well the one I've found so far) seems to be my Galbanum Piscis Rapture expansion which is listed but none of the programs make any sound. Not urgent for the moment, I can use them in Rapture, but I'd love to have them in Pro so as to consolidate, that being one of the points of all this.
2015/04/28 19:57:27
Doktor Avalanche
Jeeze sorry Craig but you keep repeating yourself as though you don't read my posts...
 
Please stop banging on about the VST3 path as though it is ignored by design, check again the screenshot below...
 

 
If it's by design then how come I can specify the path in CCC? Yes I do know the Steinberg recommendations but that isn't the point is it looking at this screenshot? This path I have specified HAS BEEN IGNORED - AND Why do I have to write this again? 
 
In regards to the no progress bar issue (e.g. vol 2), PLEASE STOP TELLING ME IT WAS BEHIND A WINDOW!!! I did it many times and of course did ALT- TAB and checked this sort of thing out I'm not dumb and stupid. Apologies for the capitals but this is the second time I told you this - did you actually read my post? I saw all those progress bars you have shown me this happened afterwards. I have explained very carefully what happened why not engage with that rather than just rewrite and state your experiences.
 
I suspect you are using the same hard drive as the OS for your multisamples and that's why you don't see the issue. I believe it downloads, validates and extracts on the C drive (from a RAR archive). That all works fine.
 
However if your multisample folder is on a different drive it then moves the extracted files across which can take a long time depending on the hardware. There is no progress bar when this happens and it can take ages. If it's on the same hard drive it will take seconds and you won't see the issue. Well that's my theory, and that's why you probably are not seeing the problem.
 
Apologies for my frustration but rather than engaging in my issue it appears you are attempting to make it looks like I'm the one at fault, and I'm not liking it. I'm happy to admit my mistakes but this isn't one of them.
2015/04/28 20:03:30
jih64
Yes, there are progress bars and indications at every step of the way, they are just there, what can I say. As for the time to install, well it's nowhere near 3 hours, including downloading. I downloaded the files manually to my laptop, then transferred them to my PC, then placed them in the ccc's download folder, then installed one by one, not the 'install all' route, so after every individual item installed ccc went through it's checking for updates etc, so for 16 items that's an extra approx 15 minutes, and it was nowhere near 3 hours, lucky if it was an hour and a half from start to finish.
 
It runs like a dream, fast, beautiful, love it.
 
[edit] my samples are on a different drive also
2015/04/28 20:09:32
cecelius2
Rapture Prp (64bit Standalone) is not seeing my DimPro multisamples (which are all working fine in Dimpro).  Is there a F5 rescan like there was in DimPro, or is there a way of pointing Rapture Pro to the Dim Pro multisamples that are already loaded?
 
[EDIT:  I somehow got Rapture Pro to recognize my previously installed DimPro multisamples.  I found where they were located and made a shortcut to that folder; then I placed that shortcut in with the Rapture Pro Multisamples.  It worked, or at least it is now working.  Not sure if this is what got it working, but it is for now.]
2015/04/28 20:11:57
SteveStrummerUK
Doktor Avalanche
So within about 10 minutes I got this...
 
Load up "Majestic" in Digital Sound Factory Symphonic Strings HD. It works in Dim Pro but silence within Rap Pro. Other samples work (I haven't checked all of them yet of course)... Anybody experience the same?


 
I haven't had chance to do a thorough check yet, but the Les Paul Gold Top pack samples don't appear to be there. It's obviously recognised them as they appear in the browser, but none of the individual programs is working:
 

 
They are still working perfectly if I open them in Dim Pro though.
 
I followed the automatic installation process with Rapture Pro, and I'll be honest with you, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever how to sort this out
2015/04/28 20:12:38
subtlearts
Well so far it seems rather resource-hungry, slow to load initially and sometimes slow to load a patch. I'm going to shut down and give the computer and my brain a rest and see if things are more responsive after a fresh start...
2015/04/28 20:19:46
Anderton
Doktor AvalanchePlease understand it is very frustrating at my end that after having this dreadful experience that you are attempting to convince others that it is all my mistake or that this isn't an issue... it's sad.

 
I'm not doing that at all!!! I'm simply reporting my experience. There were progress bars and I took pictures of them. I'm sure you're not lying to me, and I have no doubt you experienced what you experienced. However that is not what I experienced, and the screen shots don't lie either.
 
Just to be clear I think you know what you're doing, you make lots of great comments, and contribute a lot to this forum. Hopefully by reading what follows you can understand why your initial posts had me "barking up the wrong tree" of progress bars.
 
The real problem in the communications is I didn't actually understand what your problem was. Your post #11 ("It's probably still installing but how can I tell without any sort of progress bar just something that whirls around like a cylon helmet") and again #19 ("impossible to tell if it's working or not... not much hard drive activity and the folders don't seem to be getting any larger, and no progress bar either - it's a guessing game..") referred to progress bars not being shown, so that's what I keyed in on and that was the problem I attempted to address. 
 
Either you did not post or I missed the crucial information quoted below. If I'd seen that, I would NOT have gone on the progress bar tangent.
 

1) The file is downloaded, we see a progress bar in CCC.
2) The file is validated, we see a progress bar.
3) We then see various files getting moved across and extracted, we see a progress bar.
4) After that it then it just stays at installing, where the progress bar is it flips from left to right like a cylon helmet, where the progress bar is, it's just an animation though, no indication of progress. In the case of volume 2 this happened for hours.
5) Eventually we get "Click to continue".
 
You just demonstrated steps 1 to 3 + 5. Not step 4.

 
Now I understand what  your problem was. But step 4 never happened to me so I wouldn't have known to look for it unless it was spelled out, like you just did.
 
I'm just saying what I am seeing, if you wish to tell me this is all my fault, or I'm just doing it wrong - it's sad.

 
PLEASE, I didn't say you did anything wrong. I didn't say you lied. I said "I don't think there's a design flaw" and "I presume it's because..." as in guess, but that guess was wrong because I didn't have all the data when I responded. I understand you've had a frustrating time, but if you read what I wrote without the overlay of frustration, I hope you'll realize I addressed a problem I thought you had rather than one you actually had. All I was trying to do was come up with an explanation for what I thought you experienced so if others encountered the same issue, they wouldn't have to go through the same frustration.
 
I also tested Expansion Pack 2 not to show you're "lying,"or to invalidate your experience, but to find out if it was reproducible. It wasn't, so unfortunately that greatly complicates finding a solution.
 
Oh well. I certainly don't mean to be critical of you at all, I just wanted to solve the problem I thought you had.
2015/04/28 20:23:20
Doktor Avalanche
Just to be super clear with my scenario
 
a) Package files are downloaded from CCC onto a folder on drive D.
b) Multisamples folder etc is on drive D
c) Operating system is on drive C which is where all the exaction from a RAR seems to take place. e.g. C:\Users\[User Account Name]\AppData\Local\Temp\RarSFX2\Data\App\Multisamples\
 
1) The file is downloaded, we see a progress bar in CCC.
2) The file is validated, we see a progress bar.
3) We then see various files getting moved across and extracted, we see progress bars, all as Craig says.

4) After that it then it just stays at installing, where the progress bar is it flips from left to right like a cylon helmet, where the progress bar is, it's just an animation though, no indication of progress. In the case of volume 2 this happened for hours.

5) Eventually we get "Click to continue".
 
I believe step 4 is where the extracted samples are being moved from C drive to D drive. There is NO progress bar for this, well to be clear the progress bar just shows a left to right animation with no indication of progress.
 
Most people with default install will just briefly see (4) right at the end before they see "Click here to continue" because there isn't much going on for them if the files are on the same drive (windows just quickly points the files at different file paths). However I have validated that files are being moved across from the C drive (C:\Users\[User Account Name]\AppData\Local\Temp\RarSFX2\Data\App\Multisamples\) to the D drive at this stage for users who have the multisamples folder away from their C drive...
 
Apologies for my frustrations but this is very real I promise you!
2015/04/28 20:26:42
Doktor Avalanche
If anybody gets a chance could they check #39?
Looks like almost all the Digital Sound Factory Symphonic samples I have (given away free a while back) don't work.
Thanks..
2015/04/28 20:45:17
Anderton
Doktor Avalanche
Jeeze sorry Craig but you keep repeating yourself as though you don't read my posts...
 
Please stop banging on about the VST3 path as though it is ignored by design, check again the screenshot below...

 
I don't necessarily think it's ignored by design, and don't recall saying that...just that it's probably designed to go to the "default," and that's that. I did say "Although I guess if they let you move it, maybe the CCC could know that (assuming you moved it after installing via the CCC) and act accordingly." But I don't know code, which is why I didn't express certainty. If some flag gets deposited somewhere, then as I said, "maybe the CCC could know that...and act accordingly." It don't think it's that different from what you're saying.
 
In regards to the no progress bar issue (e.g. vol 2), PLEASE STOP TELLING ME IT WAS BEHIND A WINDOW!!! I did it many times and of course did ALT- TAB and checked this sort of thing out I'm not dumb and stupid. Apologies for the capitals but this is the second time I told you this - did you actually read my post?...I have explained very carefully what happened why not engage with that rather than just rewrite and state your experiences.

 
Please look at the sequence of posts, I wrote the one about presuming it was behind a window before your post that explained you actually did see progress bars. At the time I wrote the reply, all I had to go on was posts #11 and #19, which were very specific about NOT seeing progress bars. The only reason I mentioned it a second time, which was indeed after your detailed post, is apparent if you look at the time stamps...you posted 4 minutes before I posted mine. I didn't see your post because I had started writing my post 12 minutes earlier, when I started timing the download. When the download was finished I wrote down the time that it took and then hit the "Submit Post" button - so it ended up AFTER your post, even though I had started writing it well BEFORE your post. I couldn't have seen your post before submitting because the page doesn't refresh while you're still writing.
 

I suspect you are using the same hard drive as the OS for your multisamples and that's why you don't see the issue. I believe it downloads, validates and extracts on the C drive (from a RAR archive). That all works fine.
 
However if your multisample folder is on a different drive it then moves the extracted files across which can take a long time depending on the hardware. There is no progress bar when this happens and it can take ages. If it's on the same hard drive it will take seconds and you won't see the issue. Well that's my theory, and that's why you probably are not seeing the problem.

 
Now we're getting someplace! I tested this on my laptop (haven't left work yet, and yes, it's 7:40 PM here) and the samples are on the C drive because, well, it's a laptop. I'll be installing on my desktop when/if I ever get home and will see if I encounter the same issues.
 
Apologies for my frustration but rather than engaging in my issue it appears you are attempting to make it looks like I'm the one at fault, and I'm not liking it. I'm happy to admit my mistakes but this isn't one of them.



I understand your frustration however if you look at the time stamps on the posts, you'll see I was engaging in your issue...but only the issues I'd read about in the posts up to that point, not the later one that contained crucial information needed to understand the problem. It's not just audio interfaces and cell phones that have latency issues 
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