I used my Roland GR20 Guitar Synth for midi input. Seemed too gentle to use my keyboard.
 
Rapture Pro seems much more robust than old Rapture.
 
Processor doesn't work nearly as hard, but all work still being done on a single processor.
 
The Synth did freeze one me once so far. When it froze,

• Meters on the Synth Audio Output track remained frozen, but no sound
• Meters on the midi input channel bounced happily.
• resetting the Audio Engine didn't help.
• Closing the project didn't help.
• Closing and re-opening Sonar did help.
• I have not been able to repeat it.
• The problem was not caused by me playing hard and driving the processor up. Nothing much was happening. I was changing patches, I think, but not sure and can't repeat.
• I can regularly Freeze Rapture. I tried hard and was not able to Freeze Rapture Pro by playing aggressively with lots of sustain.

I'm glad I bought the Synth. It's a good deal. And I've had a great time with it.
 
Red Herring
At one point, I was getting some clicks on the attack. At first, I thought that this might be b/c my latency was too low so I bumped it up and the clicks persisted. Turned out, I was clipping on the master bus. If it could happen to me it could happen to you. :-)
 
So, at the end of the evening, praise and respect to the Bakers. It's a nice job and I'm happy.

Hello, Gswitz! Have you a problem with first and third pack of Rapture Pro when installing? Some programs are missed in each of them.

I can double check. I wasn't able to tell a problem last-night.
 
What programs should I look for?
 
Edit: While going through patches looking for missing items I had issues with Sonar Silent Treatment.
The Rapture Pro: Dark Angelic 2 patch is not playable on my system. If I try to load the patch, I have to close and re-open Sonar.
 
I added C:\Cakewalk Content to my Windows Defender Scanning Exclusions.
 
List of problem patches for me:
Dark Angelic 2
Dramatic Resonance
Lush Guitars F5
Multipulse & Brass
DK_BA_AcidMoog3 - This one works but clicks like it's clipping when I hold a chord. I couldn't discover why.
 

Somebody wrote earlier that there were tremendous differences in volume between programs - I saw this as well..
I'll summarise what I saw on the other thread (it was too long).
 
1) No progress bar when files are being moved after extraction - could be a CCC issue perhaps.

2) It's really hard to tell which bank has been selected "Rapture Pro", "Dimension Pro", "Expansion Pack", when they are selected it's just slightly brighter, but it really isn't at all obvious. I don't see any other indicators.

3) Sadly when you make the window larger the UI does not expand with it, so we still have to cope with scrollbars (urgh!). It's obvious that the UI for patch browsing is based on the Kontakt interface, with Kontakt you can at least do that.

4) If I search for a program, let's say "Atmosmere", and then I want to go patch browsing again, I have to delete what I typed in first. Then I have to click the mouse elsewhere. Really fiddly. There is no X button or something to quickly get rid of it. Is there a shortcut I'm missing?

5) There really should be a file browser tab like in Kontakt, for the moment we just have a basic browser library.

6) Bug - Gibson Les Paul Gold Top and Digital Sound Factory Symphonic are not loading samples (silent).
 
7) Sample file management is basically still non existent. We are unable to manage file paths (hard to tell well the samples actually are), and there seems to be no settings area for file paths to point to.
 
8) When saving or loading files it defaults to an irrelevant location (pity it can't be defined in the settings).
 
9) Bug - Go to Z3TA+2, load up a sample and click on the silver keyboard below. Click the same note several time in quick succession - observe how responsive it is (works well). Do the same with Rap Pro - there seems to be something going on whereby it's not as punchy - everytime you stop playing with the mouse something is updating which delays the response of the next mouse click.
 
10) Bug - When loading a program the info pane will show "Times loaded: 1". If you load another program and then go back to the same program it still says "Times loaded: 1". I would expect it to increment.
 
11) Rap Pro does create log files but they've taken away the facility to access them via the Rap Pro menu.

gswitz
I can double check. I wasn't able to tell a problem last-night.
 
What programs should I look for?
 
Edit: While going through patches looking for missing items I had issues with Sonar Silent Treatment.
The Rapture Pro: Dark Angelic 2 patch is not playable on my system. If I try to load the patch, I have to close and re-open Sonar.
 
I added C:\Cakewalk Content to my Windows Defender Scanning Exclusions.
 
List of problem patches for me:
Dark Angelic 2
Dramatic Resonance
Lush Guitars F5
Multipulse & Brass
DK_BA_AcidMoog3 - This one works but clicks like it's clipping when I hold a chord. I couldn't discover why.
 

Thank you for your reply. I mean when installing packs 1 and 3  error messages appeared. I noticed there were complaints about wrong names of source files. One of them was "90?s pianos instead of 90's pianos.  May it be of question mark? 

Doktor Avalanche
Somebody wrote earlier that there were tremendous differences in volume between programs - I saw this as well..
I'll summarise what I saw on the other thread (it was too long).
 
1) No progress bar when files are being moved after extraction - could be a CCC issue perhaps.

 
 
Noted, will look into it. 
 

Doktor Avalanche
2) It's really hard to tell which bank has been selected "Rapture Pro", "Dimension Pro", "Expansion Pack", when they are selected it's just slightly brighter, but it really isn't at all obvious. I don't see any other indicators.

 
 
Gotcha, I can see what you mean. From afar the default selected Rapture Pro category doesn't appear to be in a "selected state". I'll note this. 
 

Doktor Avalanche
3) Sadly when you make the window larger the UI does not expand with it, so we still have to cope with scrollbars (urgh!). It's obvious that the UI for patch browsing is based on the Kontakt interface, with Kontakt you can at least do that.

 
 
It would be AWESOME if we had something like that implemented, but many of our plugins do not have this built into the design of their GUI. The original Rapture and Dimension Pro didn't either.
 

Doktor Avalanche
4) If I search for a program, let's say "Atmosmere", and then I want to go patch browsing again, I have to delete what I typed in first. Then I have to click the mouse elsewhere. Really fiddly. There is no X button or something to quickly get rid of it. Is there a shortcut I'm missing?

 
Understood, noting for sure. 
 

Doktor Avalanche
5) There really should be a file browser tab like in Kontakt, for the moment we just have a basic browser library.

 
Rapture Pro displays your entire C:\Cakewalk Content\Rapture Pro\Programs if that's your chosen directory. It doesn't require any special sauce to reload or refresh this - as it loads in real time. Not sure I see the benefit of a Browser within a Browser.
 

Doktor Avalanche
6) Bug - Gibson Les Paul Gold Top and Digital Sound Factory Symphonic are not loading samples (silent).

We'll look into this for sure. These are not Rapture Pro libraries - but they should be compatible. 

Doktor Avalanche
7) Sample file management is basically still non existent. We are unable to manage file paths (hard to tell well the samples actually are), and there seems to be no settings area for file paths to point to.

 
During install you can choose where to place your samples. Users have the ability to change everything except for the initial .prog files location.
 
 

Doktor Avalanche
8) When saving or loading files it defaults to an irrelevant location (pity it can't be defined in the settings).
 

 
Looking into this now, is this true on Mac as well?
 

Doktor Avalanche
9) Bug - Go to Z3TA+2, load up a sample and click on the silver keyboard below. Click the same note several time in quick succession - observe how responsive it is (works well). Do the same with Rap Pro - there seems to be something going on whereby it's not as punchy - everytime you stop playing with the mouse something is updating which delays the response of the next mouse click.

Noted, we'll look into this. 
 

Doktor Avalanche
10) Bug - When loading a program the info pane will show "Times loaded: 1". If you load another program and then go back to the same program it still says "Times loaded: 1". I would expect it to increment.

 
Noted, look into this now. 
 

Doktor Avalanche
11) Rap Pro does create log files but they've taken away the facility to access them via the Rap Pro menu.

Not sure I see the benefit in this other than just having the ability to do this. The log files are not important unless you're having difficulty with a specific program. 
 

Hi Dan many thanks for your response...
 
3) With the shed loads of samples you are supplying it's become essential in my opinion...!
 
5) The reason we need a "browser within a browser" is when we play the samples we really need to know where they are (let's say we are trying to access the files that have been moved elsewhere, we want to know where it is expecting the samples) within it's environment... At the moment it's a guessing game. Also we might experiment with swapping files around etc. Think about what Kontakt supplies - I'm not asking for anything as extensive as that but basic functionality would be a start.

7) Yes but we need to do this after install, that's why we need a settings area for file management. Let's say I bought a brand new USB drive, or my friend has come over and asked me to hook up with his stuff. Let's say I accidentally unplugged my USB drive - or a drive letter got changed for some reason - a simple tweak fixes it all.

8) No idea about Mac - others can give feedback.


11) It's just really useful to be able to access log files quickly and easily. Right now I am having difficulty with specific programs as in (6).


The feedback you have provided is reason enough to still be a Cakewalk fan, many thanks...

Here's another:
(12) When pressing F5 to do a refresh there is no confirmation that it has done anything at all. Ideally it should show a log as to what has been imported.

Doktor Avalanche
Here's another:
(12) When pressing F5 to do a refresh there is no confirmation that it has done anything at all. Ideally it should show a log as to what has been imported.

This isn't an issue Alex. F5 doesn't show any confirmation, because it does *nothing*. The library gets refreshed automatically.

Doktor Avalanche
Here's another:
(12) When pressing F5 to do a refresh there is no confirmation that it has done anything at all. Ideally it should show a log as to what has been imported.

 

Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
This isn't an issue Alex. F5 doesn't show any confirmation, because it does *nothing*. Library refreshes are done automatically on UI open. 

Then you need to change the PDF manual as it states this. Thanks.