S'OK! I sorted it. I realised that the m-Audio had a Monitor output. So could send just one audio track to the m_audio and then monitor that in the other programme.
I used Ethernet MIDI for its 60 minutes then it said I had to reboot to use it again...and the purchase price is Eu65!
So I grabbed Loopbe 1. As far as I can see I still have to dupe any MIDI tracks that I want to send to both a synth and to the other programme. Of course I can also use other tracks that have just controllers and stuff and they only go to the MIDI stream, not to a synth.