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  • Endless knob in AZ Controller
2018/10/07 10:05:13
rejkmackan

I failed registering at Azslow forum so I try posting my question here instead.
 
I'm using a Komplete Kontrol S61. The knobs can be configured in two ways to to send relative values:
1) relative values 1 for up and 127 for down
2) relative values 65 for up and 63 for down
The problem is that when the knob is turned fast, increased values are sent, for option 1) above, for instance value 2, 3 etc is sent when turning the knob up. When turning the knob down, values 126, 125 etc., are sent, i.e. in reverse.
 
With AZ Controller option 1) works with Endless controller and Acceleration for turning the knob up. When turning down the value 127 works, but it shifts the controller really fast. To work properly, when turning the value down, it seems to expect values 65, 66, 67 etc., instead of 127, 126, 125 that it gets, in order to accelerate smoothly.
 
I think I could get this to work if I can recalculate value 127 to 65, 126 to 66, 125 to 67 etc.
 
Is there a way in AZ Controller to change midi data values in this way, before it reach the value action for the endless controller.
2018/10/07 16:41:54
azslow3
Hi,
sorry you could not register on my site, I will check what is going on.
 
For the subject, I guess that is not supported at the moment. Workaround in preset is possible, but special option inside the program is the proper way.
 
I will let you know here when things are ready (I guess tomorrow).
 
2018/10/07 17:28:52
rejkmackan
Thank you for your reply. Looking forward to it. I think you're doing a great job.
 
I really like how the knobs on Komplete Kontrol can be used to move the faders when the acceleration works. I have kind of tested it already since it works for moving the fader up. When doing it this way there is no need to have motorized faders, and no risk of accidentally modifying the values (not very much anyway).
 
And the fact that I don't need another hardware unit to do this but can do it with the keyboard, is also great. However, the keyboard have no buttons that can be used for sending midi messages, so I'm thinking about getting a simple midi controller with buttons to use together with the keyboard controls, e.g. for controlling record arm, mute and solo.
 
About registering on your site, if you have logs telling what might have gone wrong, I can tell you that I have tried multiple times. With username "Markus Nilsson", rejkmackan, and also with my email as the username. I never got an activation mail. Tried two different mail addresses, one at gmail and one at a Swedish domain, and have checked the spam folder. The site reported that it had sent activation mail successfully.
2018/10/08 11:45:04
azslow3
I have uploaded b394. No changes in presets required, AZController should automatically process acceleration correctly (for any relative values).
2018/10/08 13:55:00
tobiaslindahl
This has nothing to do with this post, but I still love my X-touch mini with your preset. It works perfectly! :) 
Just figured another thank you was in order. 
2018/10/08 17:00:53
rejkmackan
I have tested it now, and I can confirm that it works like i hoped it would. Thanks a lot.
2018/10/08 20:53:55
azslow3
tobiaslindahl
This has nothing to do with this post, but I still love my X-touch mini with your preset. It works perfectly! :) 
Just figured another thank you was in order.

Thanks
 
rejkmackan
I have tested it now, and I can confirm that it works like i hoped it would. Thanks a lot.

Great. Let me know if you need something else.
rejkmackan
And the fact that I don't need another hardware unit to do this but can do it with the keyboard, is also great. However, the keyboard have no buttons that can be used for sending midi messages, so I'm thinking about getting a simple midi controller with buttons to use together with the keyboard controls, e.g. for controlling record arm, mute and solo.

Something like mentioned Mini can do the trick (and it has ready to use preset)
But f.e. with FF as a "Shift", encoders can do different things, like toggling Mute when turning right and Solo when left. In addition with such "Shift" you can use 61 keys as command buttons. Adding REW as a second modifier, you can have yet another set of 8x2 toggles or extra continuous operations (jogger, zoom, etc.). Or just use 4 encoders for volume and another 4 for: mute/solo, arm, track selector, jogger.  
 
2018/10/10 11:47:38
rejkmackan
Not sure that I understand what you mean by "FF as a "Shift", or if that would be possible on the Komplete Kontrol, but I will read more of your documentation before asking about it. I sounds interesting anyway.
2018/10/10 14:27:36
azslow3
rejkmackan
Not sure that I understand what you mean by "FF as a "Shift", or if that would be possible on the Komplete Kontrol, but I will read more of your documentation before asking about it. I sounds interesting anyway.

If your keyboard has transport buttons which send MIDI (MK1, MK2 has different approach...), these buttons can be used as "modifiers" (like a "Shift"/"Caps lock" on a computer keyboard). Configuring AZ Controller is a tick more complicated in that case, you will need to understand "ACT MIDI Explained" tutorial.
2018/10/10 16:42:30
rejkmackan
As I understand it, my keyboard expose one port for the knobs and keys (Komplete Kontrol - 1), and another, called Komplete Kontrol DAW, for the transport buttons, so I suppose they are difficult to combine.
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