i made a mistake here, assuming that sonar could lock into asio, wdm, wasapi, mme.. and conflict with another program, if they use the same driver, like flash, etc.. My mistake, was, that a program, but a sound card conflict was an issue, ....so to be precise, when changing a sound card, disable everything, especially, if you have internal card, in playback, recording, microphone, what you hear, all that is in segments for the removed card....then go to advanced, and set to 24 bit..
i hate to say this to myself, but feel pretty stupid right now