• Music Creator
  • driving multiple midi software synths (on multiple synth tracks) from one track's clips
2013/02/20 08:00:52
Tezza1971
For Music Creator 6... Is it possible to have the notes from one midi track be the input to several other synth tracks? Basically I want to create layers of instruments all playing the same notes. I have no problems getting multiple synth tracks to be played by the same midi hardware input, but the same cannot be said for midi notes from a clip in a midi track.
2013/02/20 08:12:22
Guitarhacker
Welcome Tezza, 

I think you can do this.... if not one way, certainly another.  In the midi source track (with the notes in it)... I would have to see if it is possible to assign the source to multiple synths.....


BUT... this would work>>>>  simply clone the source track. This makes a duplicate of the original.... clone it or copy and paste to a new track as many times as you wish.... and then simply insert a new synth for each clone/copy setting up the routing for each synth. This<i think would be the preferred way since if any changes are made to the source for a given synth, it would not affect the others. 


cloning will copy the original synth if you're not paying attention to the clone settings. 
2013/02/20 09:17:30
Beagle
Tezza, this is easily done with a drum map.  you can set up a drum map to output to multiple softsynths.

see my website (in my signature) and go to the cakewalk help files and look for info on how to set up a drum map.
2013/02/20 12:00:17
Tezza1971
  Hi gh, as helpful as it sounds, I had already thought about duplicating tracks/clips but then that will be a nightmare to maintain/edit - would really get in the way of the creative process and just cause bugs (because I made a change and missed a spot when replicating the change through all the copies). Thanks anyway.
2013/02/20 12:04:32
Tezza1971
Hi Beagle.... I just spent hours trying to make head/tail of the drum mapping thing and it's done my head in. Anything but easy.. Also, spent some time trying to find the info on your website and was unsuccessful. I tried installing a midi loopback device which should have worked only you can't loopback from within the same application (instead of routing the signal, it feeds it back on itself). I think I've spent more than half a day trying to figure this out and have failed miserably. It's pissing me off. There HAS to be a way to do it.
2013/02/20 12:17:14
Tezza1971
Would be good if you could stack outputs the way you can stack sends :/
2013/02/20 12:54:03
57Gregy
Welcome to the forum.
When you Insert a soft synth, there is a box you can check to 'Enable MIDI Output'.
Theoretically, you can check that box and have the synth output the MIDI data to another MIDI track connected to a different soft synth and using a different patch.
You could (again, theoretically) have several synths outputting the same MIDI data and making different noises.
I couldn't get it to work on this new computer with my old program, though. I've never tried it on my music computer, but you can give it a shot.
2013/02/20 16:22:50
Beagle
I'll try to give you a direct link to the drum map tutorial when I get home (I can't get to my own website from work!)
2013/02/20 18:49:35
Tezza1971
Thanks Beagle. I appreciate your help and your patience. I will have another look again as well in the meantime. Greg wrote "When you Insert a soft synth, there is a box you can check to 'Enable MIDI Output'. Theoretically, you can check that box and have the synth output the MIDI data to another MIDI track connected to a different soft synth and using a different patch." Good idea Greg. I have tried this suggestion and it does not work. I have this idea that it might if the soft-synth had a "midi through" option. I vaguely remember seeing something like that on a synth. Might see if I can find such a synth to see if that will work. However I will need a solution that works with all of them. You CAN set a soft-synth channel to source another soft-synth, but no MIDI is coming through. I set up soft synth "synth1" with the MIDI output option. I set up soft synth "synth2". Each will accept notes and play normally. I went to the INPUT selector of synth2 and chose "synth1 > MIDI Omni" Then I selected synth1 and played some midi notes on my controller. Synth1 responded but synth2 did not.
2013/02/20 18:53:30
Tezza1971
ps. how to stop this forum application from collapsing formatted text into one paragraph? :/
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