Hi 
Ok I decided to let go of maudio delta 1010's ,  I'm going to upgrade to a Motu 424 pci card using a 2408 to start with  but will build my Motu sytem overtime but  cakewalk will still be my main daw.  Also I do have a Edirol UA 1000 usb interface which I also plan to utilize again :)

Hmmm.  The average US national price for a Kilowatt-hour (kwh) is 9.84 cents.  If you pay $200 more for an Intel chip, you would have to save 2032 kwh to break even, or save 2,032,000 watt-hours.  If an AMD chip draws 50 more watts of power than the Intel, you'd have to run your AMD cpu full-tilt for 40,640 hrs, or 1693 days, or 4.6 years, never turning it off 24/7.  At that point, the cost of the AMD cpu would be equal to the cost of the more expensive (but less power draw) Intel chip.  In real world DAW usage, I'm guessing that would be more like 20+ years.  No matter what you have in your current machine, its value in 20 years will be a flat zero.
 
 

Desertdrone
  Don't plan to do a lot of overclocking.

Very.... good idea!

If you don't plan to over-clock, liquid-cooling is not necessary.
A quality air-cooler will be quieter.
(With water-cooling, you've got fan/s and the pump)

Over-clocking is fine... as long as you know what you're doing, you've spec'd the machine to allow robust/stable OC, and you're not trying to push it too far.
You can stress-test to be sure the OC is rock-solid.
 
If you're not tech-savvy, I wouldn't recommend over-clocking.
It's a delicate balance of:

• desired performance
• heat
• noise

If you were running an Intel 4790k, turbo-boost speed is 4.4GHz.
With the right motherboard, you can lock the CPU at that speed (no throttling).
In this scenario, over-clocking just isn't necessary... as the 4790k at 4.4GHz is *fast*.
Another great thing about the 4790k is that is runs pretty cool.
Use a quality 3rd-party air-cooler... and it's extremely quiet.
 

cclarry
Seriously, the performance "increase" compared to price
is negligent....AMD is far more "bang for the buck".  

Obviously Intel guys will always chant "Intel"!  But I've
used both and, to me, Intel is far overpriced.  

Their performance increase is primarily due to the fact that 
most program code is optimized for the Intel platform, not that
the processor is "faster" or has better performance.

AMD is also the first to have a 5 Ghz processor.

I have nothing against Intel.  I just think that, bang for buck,
AMD kicks them square in the teeth.
 

I think that would depend on what AMD CPU.  FX6300 - 95 Watt up to 4ghz = bang for the buck.
FX 8250 (?) 3.2 Ghz clocks up to 4 = bang for the buck.
Those 240 Watt AMD behemoths = Intel is the bang for the buck.
 
I've moved up to these new boards and you can set the multiplier if you want. Some will ramp it up for necessary activities if you don't want to lock it in the bios.  My Intel i7 4790 with turbo boost will go from 3.6 to 4.0 if necessary.  I never understood buying a processor for a DAW and overclocking it.  Most people overclock for bragging rights.
 
 

GregGraves
Hmmm.  The average US national price for a Kilowatt-hour (kwh) is 9.84 cents.  If you pay $200 more for an Intel chip, you would have to save 2032 kwh to break even, or save 2,032,000 watt-hours.  If an AMD chip draws 50 more watts of power than the Intel, you'd have to run your AMD cpu full-tilt for 40,640 hrs, or 1693 days, or 4.6 years, never turning it off 24/7.  At that point, the cost of the AMD cpu would be equal to the cost of the more expensive (but less power draw) Intel chip.  In real world DAW usage, I'm guessing that would be more like 20+ years.  No matter what you have in your current machine, its value in 20 years will be a flat zero.
 
 

My head hurt reading that. I'm glad you got all of the numbers down on that.  I've went to lower watt hardware despite having a 750W psu.  I run 4 drives in my machines.  My latest build I was going to go with an 8350FX. Instead I went with a i7 and a Geforce 750ti. I think the 750ti uses like 63 watts idle. If you are one who likes to have a gamers card in your system check the watts.  There's plenty of glutton video cars out there.

Desertdrone
Hi all I finally decided to upgrade my from old dell precision workstation to my own custom built pc. I have a asus desktop amd which been using for gaming and everyday stuff, 
  The motherboard i'm looking at is a  ASUS A88X-PRO FM2   the processor I plan to use AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz
 I did decide to add a couple of ssd drives one for my main os . the second wll have sonar . soundforge  reason and ableton 
 should I get a third to run Komplete buy itself   other drives of course I would just move my libraries and samples too.
 
  In my new dream studio would love to be able to have 3 monitors suggestions will be welcome my current Interfaces have been 2 maudio delta 1010's which i love as well as using a maudio octane preamp along with a roland vm 3100pro mostly work on Electronic , Ambient type music  as well as messing around with Sound Design
 
The Power supply I'm looking is a corsair 850hx pro series modular, my main question is 850 enough ? or would that be to much
 
Thanks  
 
Cakewalk For life :)

I don't think that processor will work on that board.  It's an FM2 board, an 8350 is AM3+.
 

Sycraft

Desertdrone
Hi all I finally decided to upgrade my from old dell precision workstation to my own custom built pc. I have a asus desktop amd which been using for gaming and everyday stuff, 
  The motherboard i'm looking at is a  ASUS A88X-PRO FM2   the processor I plan to use AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz

 
I would recommend against AMD in general for high performance systems. Unfortunately these days their performance is not competitive with Intel's, and their power usage is pretty heavy. That CPU you are looking at competes with Intel's i5 series performance wise, but has a heat dissipation near their Haswell-E series.
 
That said, it'll still be plenty, unless you go nuts on the effects you don't need a ton of power by today's standards for DAWs. Digital audio has become "easy" for computers. Just saying when it is my money for a computer, I get Intel CPUs because they have more performance per clock and use less power.
 
 

I did decide to add a couple of ssd drives one for my main os . the second wll have sonar . soundforge  reason and ableton 
 should I get a third to run Komplete buy itself   other drives of course I would just move my libraries and samples too.
 

 
No reason to separate OS and apps. Get one SSD and stick your OS and your applications on there. Get a second one for samples. Your OS drive has very little access once Windows has booted, so running apps off of it works great.
 

The Power supply I'm looking is a corsair 850hx pro series modular, my main question is 850 enough ? or would that be to much

 
More than enough for the system as stated. Unless you run dual gaming GPUs, you do not need that much. However, I'm a fan of overspec'd PSUs so that is a fine choice. For your system as specified you'd be looking at a peak load of somewhere in the realm of 300 watts, presuming you choose a mid range GPU. If you go for a higher end GPU then you are talking 400-450 probably in which case an 800ish power supply is optimal (PSUs are most efficient at half their rated load).
 
Personally, I'd recommend Seasonic power supplies rather than Corsair. Corsairs are nice, but I've come to like Seasonic PSUs more. Their X series would be the rough equivalent to that Corsair HX. If you wanted something a bit better their Platinum series are what I like. Slightly more efficient and slightly quieter. In no way necessary, but nice. They make both ranging from 600-1200 watts so you've a range of choices.

I don't understand what you are saying but most software is far from less resource intensive especially soft synths.
 

cclarry
Seriously, the performance "increase" compared to price
is negligent....AMD is far more "bang for the buck".  

Obviously Intel guys will always chant "Intel"!  But I've
used both and, to me, Intel is far overpriced.  

I don't consider myself an "Intel guy"
In the past, I've used many Athon CPUs for both myself and clients
Right now, Intel is making the faster CPU (DSP processing power)... so that's what I'm using.
The i7-4790k is a <$300 CPU that can be locked at 4.4GHz.
With a quality air-cooler, it's both extremely fast... and extremely quiet.
Add to this you have Intel USB3 and Intel SATA-III integrated into the motherboard chipset.
Better compatibility on the USB3 side... and better performance with SSDs
The 4790k offers great bang-for-the-buck.
As a point of reference, the 4790k costs half of what I paid for PII and original Athlon CPUs.
 
If/when AMD leap-frogs Intel, I will happily run AMD.