amiller

Sanderxpander
... you could make an FX Chain out of Channel Tools with knobs assigned in the ProChannel. That way you wouldn't have to open any plugin window.

It's not so much that I don't want to open a plugin window as it is I don't want to run the track through yet another signal processor.  I'm just trying to keep it simpler.  But, since Sonar doesn't have a "track delay" parameter, I'll probably try your suggestion above.

 
A track delay parameter is a signal processor, just one that's integrated. But there is no degradation of any kind associated with delay. All it does it take data and spit it our later than it received it. There's no real "processing" per se.
 

Anderton

amiller

Sanderxpander
... you could make an FX Chain out of Channel Tools with knobs assigned in the ProChannel. That way you wouldn't have to open any plugin window.

It's not so much that I don't want to open a plugin window as it is I don't want to run the track through yet another signal processor.  I'm just trying to keep it simpler.  But, since Sonar doesn't have a "track delay" parameter, I'll probably try your suggestion above.

 
A track delay parameter is a signal processor, just one that's integrated. But there is no degradation of any kind associated with delay. All it does it take data and spit it our later than it received it. There's no real "processing" per se.
 

Yeah, I came to that conclusion after thinking about it over the last few days. Anyway, I worked with Channel Tools tonight to see how effective it is at achieving the Haas effect to more accurately place an instrument in a specific space in the sound stage. I have to say, I was very happily surprised at how well it worked. It works much better than trying to use the panning knob if I want an instrument to be placed other than center, hard left or hard right. It's most effective with delay times of < 1 millisecond.

This will become another very powerful tool in my mixing bag...very cool.

Keni
I find another way of achieving similar is to stup the Sonitus delay with no repeats to two different vales say 27ms and 30 ms...

 
I would pass the signal through the Sonitus Delay and set one side to 100% wet and the other side dry (0%).

Channel Tools "Wide" preset. Easy.
 

Double posting - odd..

LJB
Channel Tools "Wide" preset. Easy.
 

And what does that preset do exactly?  The name implies that it "widens" the stereo field.  That is NOT what this thread is trying to address.  This thread is about getting a mono track to sit in a specific place in the sound stage.

OK, have you actually TRIED Channel Tools? Because that is EXACTLY what that plugin achieves. It creates a delay by splitting either a mono or a stereo signal and you can control the delay time and panning (and a whole lot more) for each channel. Therefore controlling the perceived direction of the source. I think Haas would be impressed, it surely saves you cloning an audio track :O)

LJB
OK, have you actually TRIED Channel Tools? Because that is EXACTLY what that plugin achieves. It creates a delay by splitting either a mono or a stereo signal and you can control the delay time and panning (and a whole lot more) for each channel. Therefore controlling the perceived direction of the source. I think Haas would be impressed, it surely saves you cloning an audio track :O)

Yes, I have tried Channel Tools.  So, I must be misunderstanding you or how it works.  For instance, how do you split a mono track? 
 
Also, when I put Channel Tools on a mono track the only thing that seems to have any effect at all is the "Delay."  In fact, most everything else is greyed out...not available.  If I put Channel Tools on a stereo track then, yes, all options are available and not greyed out.
 

Set the track interleave button to stereo.

LJB
Channel Tools "Wide" preset. Easy.
 

LBJ,  might I ask you or someone else who might be so kind, as to post an image of WIDE, or list the settings?   For some reason, that preset is no longer in my preset drop down.  I used it a lot a few years back,  and I believe your spot on - that was my go to start setting for getting a nice wide image.
 
Take care,
 
L