That's a bummer, I just tried "Delete Hole" and it doesn't work for me either.  That's not cool at all
 
JP

husker
Stupid question,  what is ripple editing?   I see it talked about,  but I haven't been able to figure out what it means. 

Here's a post with a link to a 10 minute video that explains what it is and how it works in another DAW: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3428051.  The entire thread that contains the post is about Ripple Editing.
 
Hope this helps,
-- Ron

Cool, thanks Ron.  That helps.

FWIW Delete Hole does work with audio projects. It's MIDI tracks that get screwed up if a note extends over where a split is occurring. The workaround is to split MIDI notes at region boundaries manually.
 
The beauty of implementing ripple editing is it would not only fix delete hole, but also allow "slide over to make room" to work consistently, which has the same issue with MIDI notes. However as I've pointed out before, you have to be careful to turn off ripple editing when you don't want clips other than the ones you're working on affected. I've really messed up some Vegas projects by forgetting to turn it off after doing an edit.

Yes, the video is a fine example of ripple editing.  However, it's interesting to note that it isn't perfect there either.  If you'll notice at around 6:50' he shows how easy it is to delete a section utilizing Reaper's region but notice that it didn't just delete the "region"/selection (in this case the verse), it also deleted the next "region" (chorus) probably because that was the length of the clip he clicked on (in spite of the region selection).  A good indication of the complexity of coding and trying to cover all scenarios.
 
BTW, I really enjoy Gioia's videos.  His Mixing in Reel Time video on Groove3 shows how efficient editing can be in Reaper (at least the way he works :-)

Anderton
FWIW Delete Hole does work with audio projects. It's MIDI tracks that get screwed up if a note extends over where a split is occurring. The workaround is to split MIDI notes at region boundaries manually.
 
The beauty of implementing ripple editing is it would not only fix delete hole, but also allow "slide over to make room" to work consistently, which has the same issue with MIDI notes. However as I've pointed out before, you have to be careful to turn off ripple editing when you don't want clips other than the ones you're working on affected. I've really messed up some Vegas projects by forgetting to turn it off after doing an edit.

 
The same thing has happened to me, mainly if I am tired after a long day.

Anderton
FWIW Delete Hole does work with audio projects.

So they fixed Delete Hole for Audio? Do you know what version it started working in? I would love to upgrade, but I don't want to have to go through upgrading, testing, and then reverting back to Kingston. I've done that before and it sucks quite a bit of time and productivity.
Thanks.
 

mudgel
Of course it would benefit me immensely. However, complaining on a forum won't make it happen any faster. I'm sure if it was ready Cakewalk would release it.

They already announced that the delete hole issue would be fixed by implementing Ripple editing. When it's ready it's ready. In the meantime I'm making music.

Regarding 6 months ago, point taken and noted.
 
Regarding complaining, that is not my intent. Just trying to raise awareness that this bug still exists.
I've sent in a couple of bug reports to let them know. Did it right when I came across it.
My goal with this post was to bring this issue back to the forefront of their minds. They have so many new features and bug fixes since Kensington, but have not seemed to address this issue. They say it is because "Ripple Edit" is coming soon. Meanwhile, all the new cool layouts, screens, etc. get the lion's share of attention on these forums when they are changed or buggy. Then some fix comes out with the new release for the "squeaky wheels."
 
I'm just trying to champion this fix by becoming a "squeaky wheel" again.
 
Again, workarounds are really not an option due to the speed with which I need to work on long form voice over projects. If there is empty space between audio clips, I need to close the gap between them, and move on.
...and I think others would benefit, just not sure how many.
 
Thanks for all your comments.

wtreppler

Anderton
FWIW Delete Hole does work with audio projects.

So they fixed Delete Hole for Audio? Do you know what version it started working in? I would love to upgrade, but I don't want to have to go through upgrading, testing, and then reverting back to Kingston. I've done that before and it sucks quite a bit of time and productivity.
Thanks.

No, they are not...

Are you sure Delete Hole doesn't work for audio projects? I use it without problems...mostly soundtracks with lots of tracks, and narration with one or two tracks. Maybe I'm avoiding some use case that makes it not work?