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  • Audio Exports at Higher Level (p.2)
2017/02/07 08:44:39
Bristol_Jonesey
One other point which has caught many people out is if you have more than 1 pair of outputs assigned via your interface (e.g. to feed a headphone mix)
 
If you then select "Entire Mix" as your export source, you'll get an increase in level of 3dB for every pair assigned.
 
For this reason among others, I ALWAYS use Main Outs for my exports.
2017/02/07 08:44:42
Bristol_Jonesey
Duplicate post
2017/02/07 08:59:17
John
I always use the Master Buss for output. I do not use entire mix ever.  Obviously all audio that should be in the mix must be assigned to the master buss for this to work. 
 
Because I use sub buses that are for instruments, vocals, solos, and drums I can also exports stems if I need to by selecting  the sub buses only.  
2017/02/07 10:08:46
Paul G
Bristol_Jonesey
11Dreams
set your primary output 3dBs lower...  last slider on the right in the console view.
 
 


That doesn't solve his problem
 
Paul, under Source Category, try selecting your Main Outs (might be called Hardware Outputs). Solo the track and export again


I'm trying to just copy the raw audio from my tracks.  If I use any output other than "Tracks", the audio will be effected by whatever is in the path, right?
 
I'm going to try this approach.  Main outs, solo track / clip and shut off everything.
 
Thanks.
 
Paul
2017/02/07 10:14:54
karma1959
Was the track routing to a bus?  I've had challenges when exporting when using any other output than hardware outputs.  For example, if using 'entire mix' , bus levels would be summed, making the export a different level than when listening. 
 
I'd second Bristol Jonesy's approach of always using hardware output during your exports, and muting all other tracks you don't want included in the export to keep levels consistent.
2017/02/07 10:21:52
Paul G
Bristol_Jonesey
One other point which has caught many people out is if you have more than 1 pair of outputs assigned via your interface (e.g. to feed a headphone mix)
 
If you then select "Entire Mix" as your export source, you'll get an increase in level of 3dB for every pair assigned.
 
For this reason among others, I ALWAYS use Main Outs for my exports.


Colin.  If I'm exporting just raw audio from a track, it shouldn't go through the interface, right?  It's just math inside Sonar.
 
I just started using a new interface, a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6.  I haven't got it entirely figured out yet, so it's possible that it might be the culprit but looking at how random and unpredictable the exported levels seem to be, (some +3 to +6dB, some -3 to -6dB), I don't see how this is possible.
 
Paul
2017/02/07 10:26:26
Paul G
John
I always use the Master Buss for output. I do not use entire mix ever.  Obviously all audio that should be in the mix must be assigned to the master buss for this to work. 
 
Because I use sub buses that are for instruments, vocals, solos, and drums I can also exports stems if I need to by selecting  the sub buses only.  

Thanks John.  When mixing down, that's what I do.  Right now, I'm just trying to export the raw tracks.
 
Paul
2017/02/07 10:28:06
Paul G
karma1959
Was the track routing to a bus?  I've had challenges when exporting when using any other output than hardware outputs.  For example, if using 'entire mix' , bus levels would be summed, making the export a different level than when listening. 
 
I'd second Bristol Jonesy's approach of always using hardware output during your exports, and muting all other tracks you don't want included in the export to keep levels consistent.

Thanks Russ, but I just want raw tracks.  I'm going to try it.


Paul
2017/02/07 11:43:49
Bristol_Jonesey
Paul G
Bristol_Jonesey
One other point which has caught many people out is if you have more than 1 pair of outputs assigned via your interface (e.g. to feed a headphone mix)
 
If you then select "Entire Mix" as your export source, you'll get an increase in level of 3dB for every pair assigned.
 
For this reason among others, I ALWAYS use Main Outs for my exports.


Colin.  If I'm exporting just raw audio from a track, it shouldn't go through the interface, right?  It's just math inside Sonar.****
 
I just started using a new interface, a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6.  I haven't got it entirely figured out yet, so it's possible that it might be the culprit but looking at how random and unpredictable the exported levels seem to be, (some +3 to +6dB, some -3 to -6dB), I don't see how this is possible.
 
Paul


*** Correct.
 
If all you want is the raw track with no Fx, just hit 'e' to globally bypass all Fx, solo the track & Export
 
Even easier, if your track is one long clip, just drag it to your desktop
If it's not, bounce to clip then drag to desktop
2017/02/07 17:58:17
Paul G
Bristol_Jonesey
Paul G
Bristol_Jonesey
One other point which has caught many people out is if you have more than 1 pair of outputs assigned via your interface (e.g. to feed a headphone mix)
 
If you then select "Entire Mix" as your export source, you'll get an increase in level of 3dB for every pair assigned.
 
For this reason among others, I ALWAYS use Main Outs for my exports.


Colin.  If I'm exporting just raw audio from a track, it shouldn't go through the interface, right?  It's just math inside Sonar.****
 
I just started using a new interface, a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6.  I haven't got it entirely figured out yet, so it's possible that it might be the culprit but looking at how random and unpredictable the exported levels seem to be, (some +3 to +6dB, some -3 to -6dB), I don't see how this is possible.
 
Paul


*** Correct.
 
If all you want is the raw track with no Fx, just hit 'e' to globally bypass all Fx, solo the track & Export
 
Even easier, if your track is one long clip, just drag it to your desktop
If it's not, bounce to clip then drag to desktop


Thanks Colin.  I've done that as well and I still get exported audio that's either louder or softer than the original clip.  I also noticed that sometimes, for no apparent reason, the global FX would just turn back on by itself.  Definitely some goblins in my system.
 
Paul
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