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2016/12/04 03:58:05
Bristol_Jonesey
I've found the best way to identify duplicate notes is to open up the track in staff view.
 
Any duplicates will display on either side of the note stalk. making it easy to delete.
 
Note - if deleting removes BOTH notes from the stalk, ctrl + z will restore just ONE note (which is what you want)
 
2016/12/04 05:35:12
jb101
Bristol_Jonesey
I've found the best way to identify duplicate notes is to open up the track in staff view.
 
Any duplicates will display on either side of the note stalk. making it easy to delete.
 
Note - if deleting removes BOTH notes from the stalk, ctrl + z will restore just ONE note (which is what you want)
 


Brilliant one, Colin, thank you so much.

This will save me so much grief. Such a simple and effective solution.
2016/12/04 14:47:52
cboshuizen
Bristol_Jonesey
I've found the best way to identify duplicate notes is to open up the track in staff view. Any duplicates will display on either side of the note stalk. making it easy to delete.
 

 
Came here to say this! 
2016/12/05 02:32:48
AdamGrossmanLG
rogeriodec
SilverBlueMedallion
rogeriodec
Undupe does not differentiate note veocities or note durations.
The KEY to UNDUPE.CAL work is: ENSURE THAT ALL EVENTS ARE SELECTED IN ONLY 1 CLIP.
See: http://forum.cakewalk.com...s-m879464.aspx#3444681




did that, still only finds duplicates if it is the same duration and velocity.


I have tested here and can confirm that it works (except if duplication is exactly the first event, which should be a script bug).
See this example, 3 notes (C, D, E) duplicated, different durations, different velocities:

 
And after undupe:





 
 
well i just tested this myself and no go.   check out the video below showing a drum sound hitting TWICE at the same exact time, duration, velocity and MIDI channel, and STILL undupe won't work!   Everything is in one clip as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xhgnR3FEiE
 
here is the event viewer proving this is a duplicate that UNDUPE.CAL just doesn't find.



This is terrible.  No other way to do this then by hand?    
2016/12/05 03:19:54
Bristol_Jonesey
Have you got me on block or something? I demonstrated how to do this manually above.
2016/12/05 03:21:48
AdamGrossmanLG
Bristol_Jonesey
Have you got me on block or something? I demonstrated how to do this manually above.




THANK YOU for the advice with the staff view.  I guess its better than nothing, but I am looking for something automated.   I don't want to look at every note in my project for possible duplicates, you know?
2016/12/05 05:32:15
Bristol_Jonesey
Yeah, I know it's a workaround at best but it does work.
2016/12/05 05:59:24
rogeriodec
SilverBlueMedallion
 
well i just tested this myself and no go.   check out the video below showing a drum sound hitting TWICE at the same exact time, duration, velocity and MIDI channel, and STILL undupe won't work!   Everything is in one clip as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xhgnR3FEiE
 
here is the event viewer proving this is a duplicate that UNDUPE.CAL just doesn't find.



This is terrible.  No other way to do this then by hand?    




I saw your video and it looks like you're not selecting correctly.
Have you tried:
1) Select the entire track
2) Bounce to Clips
3) Run the CAL (with all selected)?
 
Also, if you want, send me a link with your project for me to review.
2016/12/05 09:03:47
AdamGrossmanLG
rogeriodec
SilverBlueMedallion
 
well i just tested this myself and no go.   check out the video below showing a drum sound hitting TWICE at the same exact time, duration, velocity and MIDI channel, and STILL undupe won't work!   Everything is in one clip as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xhgnR3FEiE
 
here is the event viewer proving this is a duplicate that UNDUPE.CAL just doesn't find.



This is terrible.  No other way to do this then by hand?    




I saw your video and it looks like you're not selecting correctly.
Have you tried:
1) Select the entire track
2) Bounce to Clips
3) Run the CAL (with all selected)?
 
Also, if you want, send me a link with your project for me to review.




 
Hello,
 
#1.  I have tried selecting the entire track (but why should I have to?)
#2.  It was already bounced to clips.  The entire track had one clip
#3.  Why can't I select the notes I want the CAL to look at?
 
I appreciate it, but what I did do was, well I chose a windows of "1" this time and it worked, but the notes were on the same tick!
2016/12/05 09:07:49
Anderton
A solution also depends on how the unwanted note is generated. For example MIDI guitar will often generate spurious notes, but the ones you don't want will be a lower velocity or very short. You can use Process > Deglitch for this to nuke all notes less than a certain velocity or less than a particular duration.
 
It might be worth finding out why you're getting duplicate notes to head the issue off at the source.
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