Hello,
 
It is hard to believe but still in Sonar there is no ability to convert project data rate. It is a really a pain when have lost projects in data rate not available in owned sound card.
 
And getting this annoying message "unable to open playback device".
 
For instance having many projects in 44.1 and sound card which support only data rates above 48 make crazy if one would like to use his own projects from the past.
 
Moreover even deleting all audio tracks with not matched data rate doesn't help. It still refuses to play!
Really? No audio tracks at all and still refusing to play project because of not matching data rate??
 
How it should be done: when loading project with data rate not available on current sound card, it should just reconvert properly audio tracks after a question if we want it. And that's all.
Or even less modern approach and little coarse one would be acceptable: option in menu to do it.
 
It is not racket science.
 
I really hope you you will be fix it soon.
Regards,
Piotr
 

But SONAR does do automatic SRC. If you create a project and declare its SR as 48KHz, and then subsequently import a 44.1 KHz file, it will be automatically converted to the project's rate.
 
Of course, you're always better off working in the original format, especially if someone's handed you a complete project to mix. In that case, you can still do batch SRC with something like R8Brain. But it would be a whole lot simpler if you just invested in a more versatile audio interface. Are you sure yours can't do 44.1?

SONAR determines an existing project's sample rate by inspecting the audio in the project. Here is a sample rate conversion method which might work for you http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2934357
 

Thank you, Guys, for your posts, but it is not what I meant...
 
Of course it is possible to workaround such problem but it is really pain and takes time.
 
First thing is to convert all audio file in 3-party converter off Sonar, the simplest part,
but then one must reinsert them all again in project in exact destined places...
There could be for instance 100 audios files in different places of project, not really regular starting at beginning of a bar...
It is great pain and big waste of time :(
 
I really believe Sonar should be able to do all such works instead of user. It is not big deal for a program to do what we can do manually, isn't it?
About my sound card, well, I am pretty sure, and Sonar as well - it shows me the ugly message that cannot play  :(
I have many projects both in 44.1 and in 48 on 2 different locations and 2 different machines and moving them to use from one to the other is always totally pain  :(
 
Of course, I and people with similar problem (when sharing with others in different data rates) could invest in different hardware to have the all data rates compatible but really is it a way? :(
Isn't it obvious thing Sonar should read every Sonar's project and do its best to play it flawlessly?
Enough we got problems when trying to share projects with people who have different plugins, I think...
 
BTW it could be nice if Sonar could provide user defined custom map for such cases. For instance I don't have grand piano of VI Labs but have True Piano and it could be nice if there would be a way to say Sonar that every project it sees VI Labs Grand it automatically replaces with True Piano etc...
Bad idea?
 
I am big fan of work automatization and believe programs should do work in every cases where it is recurrent.
Maybe is it possible to do it in CAL? Unfortunately I am not familiar with it... :(
 
Regards,
Piotr

Piotr
but then one must reinsert them all again in project in exact destined places...
There could be for instance 100 audios files in different places of project, not really regular starting at beginning of a bar...
It is great pain and big waste of time :(

 
Check out multiple clip export and broadcast wav:
http://static.cakewalk.com/cakewalk/products/sonar/release_notes/Welcome_to_the_SONAR_Ipswich_Update.pdf
 
:)

Piotr
BTW it could be nice if Sonar could provide user defined custom map for such cases. For instance I don't have grand piano of VI Labs but have True Piano and it could be nice if there would be a way to say Sonar that every project it sees VI Labs Grand it automatically replaces with True Piano etc...

The only way you could do this is start a standard for presets.
Then write to every single plugin manufacturer begging them to keep to your standard.
Ain't gonna happen :)

Piotr
About my sound card, well, I am pretty sure, and Sonar as well - it shows me the ugly message that cannot play  :(
I have many projects both in 44.1 and in 48 on 2 different locations and 2 different machines and moving them to use from one to the other is always totally pain  :(
 
Of course, I and people with similar problem (when sharing with others in different data rates) could invest in different hardware to have the all data rates compatible but really is it a way? :(

What is your hardware? Are you sure about this?
That is insane. Stick to the same rate. Either 44.1 or 48 for both cards. If (strangely) one is only capable of 44.1 then make sure the other is on 44.1. Or 48 on both. If you can't do either time to get some new hardware, that is madness...

The auto-conversion comes up again and again but would only be a niche feature ... we had those discussions ...
You can quickly

1. export all tracks with FX disabled
2. delete all audio files from your project
3. save with new name
4. change sample rate on audio card
5. open project
6. drag all exported tracks into new project and each will be converted

It's a manual process but it's doable considering how seldom this will be used considering the large user base and what people do mostly with Sonar ...
 
Personally, I don't want any auto-conversion - the warning that sample rates do not match is enough for me.
 

Piotr

Of course, I and people with similar problem (when sharing with others in different data rates) could invest in different hardware to have the all data rates compatible but really is it a way? :(
Isn't it obvious thing Sonar should read every Sonar's project and do its best to play it flawlessly?
Enough we got problems when trying to share projects with people who have different plugins, I think...
 

I'm really wondering what hardware you are using because I can't think of any prosumer interface that cannot do 44.1, 48, 88.1 and 96 kHz ...
 
If working with different people, you need to record at the same sample rate. period. unless you are in a scratch track phase, but for that even MP3 files tranfer would do ...

Mass export is great function and it can convert all files to other data rates (how ironic :(  but reinserting is manually pain job :(
Or maybe because it is new in Ipswitch it is a half way to implement reconverting projects?
 
For instance Sonar demo project "Where Did We Go Demo" has 160+ audio clips. If one would like to check every clip what audio file is related to and then replace them -  it will take hours :(
 
I have Sound Blaster Platinum EX. On ASIO it is not able to perform 44.1. It is PCI hardware with external I/O panel. It fits very well to my connections in my home. I have no dedicated home studio, but more universal well maintained with dual boot OS and virtuals machines not to thrash OS used for 'higher' purpose :)
 

 
Probably you think who cares about just a few dinosaurs irrationally attached to their hardware?
 
But isn't the same case if you have project in any data rate which is not available  on hardware where you go to use it?
 
Regards,
Piotr

Hi Piotr
 

Piotr
Mass export is great function and it can convert all files to other data rates (how ironic :(  but reinserting is manually pain job :(

 
Well, importing could definitely see some improvements ... one could be to batch import and assign based on file name vs. track name.
 

Piotr
For instance Sonar demo project "Where Did We Go Demo" has 160+ audio clips. If one would like to check every clip what audio file is related to and then replace them -  it will take hours :(

 
There are some features that help e.g.

• Always Import Broadcast Waves at Their Timestamp. Forces SONAR to ignore the Now Time when importing Broadcast Wave files. When this option is checked, Broadcast Waves begin at their SMPTE timestamp in your project.
• Export Broadcast Waves By Default. Check this option if you want the Broadcast Waves option to appear by default in the Export Audio dialog box.

However, a job like that I would do on a track basis, not on individual clips ...
 

Piotr
I have Sound Blaster Platinum EX. On ASIO it is not able to perform 44.1. It is PCI hardware with external I/O panel. It fits very well to my connections in my home. I have no dedicated home studio, but more universal well maintained with dual boot OS and virtuals machines not to thrash OS used for 'higher' purpose :)
 
Probably you think who cares about just a few dinosaurs irrationally attached to their hardware?
 

Having owned almost a dozen interfaces over time I can only recommend getting at least a 2 channel state-of-the-art external ASIO USB interface. It's not terribly expensive and you will benefit a lot from sound quality and software stability.