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2017/06/18 21:52:09
Paul G
I used the AL last night in place of the CL with one of the 'Dynamic' presets and adjusted the settings to match what I use with the CL and I must say, I was pleased.  It seemed to sound smoother.
 
I did experience one issue though.  During export, the GUI did some strange ghosting.  Is that normal or is there something wrong with my graphics?  Anyone else seen this?  Nvidia GeForce GT 730.
 
Thanks.
 
Paul
 
 
2017/06/19 03:37:31
noynekker
The more I use this new Adaptive Limiter, the more I'm inclined to not trust it as a VST channel plugin.
This afternoon I ran into problems using it as a drum track limiter. I have a few limiters that I mainly use . . . Sonar Concrete Prochannel limiter or Ozone 7 Maximizer limiter. When substituting Sonar's new Adaptive Limiter there are issues with exporting a mix (I'm not using fast bounce) . . . such that when using it with BFD3 VST3 drums, I get snares, toms and crashes randomly disappearing from the exported audio mix. (I've even tried freezing the drum tracks before export, and it still occurs . . . and it seems the Adaptive Limiter sometimes doesn't even engage when freezing the drum tracks . . . kind of weird)
 
Too bad, because I've noticed the Adaptive Limiter sounds better, smoother, but I can't live with the unpredictable mix export for my BFD3 drums. When I switch back to either the Concrete Limiter or Ozone Maximizer the random dropouts don't happen, just doesn't sound as great. Anyone else using BFD3 notice this ?
2017/06/19 15:49:50
jackson white
noynekker
Anyone else using BFD3 notice this ?



Not yet, but still checking the AL out. Master Bus only so far, Adaptive mode, Threshold usually high enough to avoid much limiting. BFD3, fast bounce without freeze.
 
Do you see the same problem when exporting just the drum/BFD3 tracks?
 
Are they random hits on every export or the same ones?
 
Are they all "sharp/fast" transients?
 
 
 
 
2017/06/19 19:07:04
LJB
I'm a bit spoiled with things like Ozone, but the plug seems nice enough. I still think Concrete Limiter is the beez kneez though.
2017/06/20 18:13:27
mmarton
I wouldn't normally use a limiter in mixing but tried the AL on a drum bus for a new song I'm working on last night starting with the Dynamic Drums preset.  Sounded great.  I haven't tried concrete limiter but it never really interested me since I have FF.  When I go to master I'll be A-B'ing AL with Pro-L heavily.  I'd be pretty impressed if AL was as good but early indications are that it is...
2017/06/20 21:36:40
LLyons
I used it for the first time, adaptive.  On drum buss, worked nicely.  Pressed it pretty hard - enough that I was getting more room sound out of the room mics.   Unless I'm going for a room sound,  I get to that point and stop then back it off a tad.   Its subjective, but I liked it.      
 
Tried it side by side with waves 316 on a master project.  Country.  Many tracks, very dynamic, many different instruments.  Not bad at all.  I liked hearing the affect of MP3 a bunch.  Nice idea.  However, the 316 won out.   I will be using AL on mixes, but not on mastering yet.  I will give it a try on a source with less detail and see where that takes me.   
 
My hat is humbly tipped to the bakers.  Sound tool - thank you. 
 
Lance 
2017/06/21 14:12:09
auto_da_fe
Just tried it out...very nice on the master bus.
 
JR
2017/06/21 16:57:32
Steve_Karl
bitflipper
and 10 being "my perfect waveform is a brick".



OMG ... that's funny~!
2017/06/22 01:53:19
neverwhere2410
Only used it a handful of times, but the metering is very useful.  Also works great on busses and individual tracks. 
2017/06/23 21:46:52
g_randybrown
I just upgraded from X3 to Platinum and I'm not seeing Adaptive Limiter when I click on "add module" in the Pro Channel.
I'm also not seeing some of my 3rd party modules...how can I add them to this drop down and remove the ones I never use?
 
Thanks,
R
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