Paul G

NeoSoul

Paul G
 
Also, am I reading this correctly?  Once you patch up to the newest 4.4 version you need to have an active internet connection to use Melodyne?  I don't like the sounds of that.
 
Thanks.

Where did you read this?
 
Thanks

Hi Neo.
 
Here's what I found on a re-review of this thread.
 
Quote: mettelus #42
"The solution was they simply needed to reset my entry in their server. What made me most irate is that it is my understanding that an internet connection is required to use Melodyne 4 (sans ILok) anyway. I am always connected, only on one machine, yet their "phone home" feature doesn't check the client side's functionality - only that their server has your computer ID on file."
(emphasis added)

and this...

Quote: mettelus #48

"I asked about earlier versions and Celemony confirmed that the upgrade 1) requires relinquishing a previous version and 2) an internet connection (or iLok) is required. The only recourse you would have is to contact them directly."

and this...

Quote: jeff s #56

"I installed Melodyne 4.0.4 yesterday and was surprised to discover that it now requires internet connectivity which my DAW does not have.  I contacted Celemony and they said go on-line as no off-line registration option exists."

(...although Jeff appears to be talking about registration here.)
 
I do hope I'm misunderstanding this.  I may just send an email to Celemony myself.
 
Paul

OK, I'm guessing this is the same as it has been for a while.  Yes, you have to connect very briefly to "authorize" it on a computer one single time if you do not use iLOK.

Paul G
 
OK, I'm guessing this is the same as it has been for a while.  Yes, you have to connect very briefly to "authorize" it on a computer one single time if you do not use iLOK.

It's likely that a connection is needed to update as well?  I see no way to DL a patch from the Celemony site.


Paul

Paul G

Paul G
 
OK, I'm guessing this is the same as it has been for a while.  Yes, you have to connect very briefly to "authorize" it on a computer one single time if you do not use iLOK.

It's likely that a connection is needed to update as well?  I see no way to DL a patch from the Celemony site.


Paul

This could certainly be true.  
I haven't updated to 4 yet (still waiting to hear more about these bugs people are reporting, and input on how Editor/Studio might or might not have more functionality with the new tempo mapping).  
 
I do recall when I upgraded to 2 editor that my ISP was blocking Celemony's foreign address and had to do some work around to get my computer to authorize, which I wasn't happy about as an offline authorization/update would have been much easier for me.  

I only ran the trial of M4, and AFAICT the "updater" does a handshake with the server whenever M4 is launched. It actually pops open a browser page to the Celemony's update page (if one exists).
 
One thing I did not verify was if the "active internet connection" is true. I had received that comment in an email from Celemony, but would have been an easy check by unplugging the machine when launching M4. Has anyone tried this? I was led to believe that the internet connection was required at launch, but didn't remember to check this when I had the opportunity. This particular point is not yet clear, and although this does not apply to many, it does apply to those who keep their DAW offline.

mettelus
I only ran the trial of M4, and AFAICT the "updater" does a handshake with the server whenever M4 is launched. It actually pops open a browser page to the Celemony's update page (if one exists).
 
One thing I did not verify was if the "active internet connection" is true. I had received that comment in an email from Celemony, but would have been an easy check by unplugging the machine when launching M4. Has anyone tried this? I was led to believe that the internet connection was required at launch, but didn't remember to check this when I had the opportunity. This particular point is not yet clear, and although this does not apply to many, it does apply to those who keep their DAW offline.

I have an internet connection, (for CCC and other authorizations), but I disconnect it when that is finished.  I've been using M4 since shortly after it came out so I'm pretty sure you don't need an active connection to use it.  That being said, I'm still on 4.2 and my concern was the mention of needing an internet connection after the update to M4.4.
 
Maybe I've misunderstood all of this but it is true that one cannot "roll back" Melodyne to an earlier version.  There in lies the rub.  I intend to contact Celomony and will post what I find out.
 
Paul

bitman
All I know is that I have a vocal track that has some spits and slip edits. If I try to create a region for melo4 anywhere on that strip, the world come crashing to an end. If I bounce this track so it is a single strip the crashes don't occur. I haven't tested beyond that finding as I don't want to risk project corruption from testing. Doing so has caused this project and only this project to no longer want to successfully load Rapture Session. - this is a whole nuther can of worms I don't want to open here. Suffice it to say I'm going to wait until it seems safe to use melodyne 4 before I do again. I'll just use vVocal for now as it's on my system.

Huh...    FWIW, I tend to always Trim clips before using Melodyne (vs. bouncing).   That way no new audio is generated unless I bounce the Region FX, but the range being fed to Melodyne is still limited to the extents of the clip itself.   I wonder if this factors in, because I rarely ever have issues with Melodyne 4...

OK.  I heard back from Ulf at Celemony.  Here's what he said.
 
"You can always download the latest Melodyne update from your Celemony user account. (4.04.001)  The online connection should only be necessary to activate Melodyne. Once this is done, Melodyne should run fine offline."
 
and this...
 
"the software has the update check build in. If a user decides to work offline, that's bad luck in this case."
 
Here's how I interpret this: 
1.  Melodyne needs an online connection to be activated but not to run.  There should be no reason to 'reactivate' Melodyne after an update.
2.  If 'online', Melodyne will check for updates.  If you run Sonar 'offline' you'll need to manually DL an update from your Celemony account.
 
There's two little things I think should be addressed by Celomony.  1. Some kind of notification when there is an update.  2. Some kind of "Melodyne Version Designator" on the user account so when checking you would know if a newer version is available.  Ulf liked #2 so we'll see.
 
Most of you probably already knew all this but for those who didn't, I hope it clears things up.  I'll post anything else I learn.
 
Paul

I am a bit surprised that Cakewalk has not chimed in on this thread. There is obviously an issue. They could at least say that they are aware of the problem and are working on it.

Paul G
OK.  I heard back from Ulf at Celemony.  Here's what he said.
 
[...] The online connection should only be necessary to activate Melodyne. Once this is done, Melodyne should run fine offline."
 
[...]

Thank you for this confirmation.

mettelus

Paul G
OK.  I heard back from Ulf at Celemony.  Here's what he said.
 
[...] The online connection should only be necessary to activate Melodyne. Once this is done, Melodyne should run fine offline."
 
[...]

Thank you for this confirmation.

You're welcome.  It put my mind at ease as well, Michael.