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2017/01/28 08:37:09
leemac
Can the new L-Phase plug-ins now be used in the mixing stage for tracks?
I ask this because, as I understood it, they introduced latency and were meant for mastering.
If that is the case, then it seems like a good update, giving an added edge to the plethora of EQ options.
 
Kind Regards
 
Lee
2017/01/28 08:56:46
scook
They can be used at any stage of production. Keep in mind ALL linear phase plug-ins introduce latency when using their linear phase algorithms. Some, including the new L-Phase plug-ins, have alternate algorithms that do not add latency. To use the L-Phase plug-ins when latency matters, set the Precision to Non-Linear in the plug-ins Expert settings.
2017/01/28 09:29:02
abacab
scook
They can be used at any stage of production. Keep in mind ALL linear phase plug-ins introduce latency when using their linear phase algorithms. Some, including the new L-Phase plug-ins, have alternate algorithms that do not add latency. To use the L-Phase plug-ins when latency matters set the Precision to Non-Linear in the plug-ins Expert settings.




Hey scook, just did quick run through of the new presets in the L-Phase Equalizer.  Very nice!
 
The two preset categories are now "Mastering" and "Mixing".
 
The 31 presets in "Mixing" all default to a non-linear setting in the "Expert" menu, so an adjustment is no longer required, when using these.
 
When you first insert the plugin, it is set to a "Default" preset, with a Medium precision linear phase setting.  But if you choose one of the "Mixing" presets, it automatically selects non-linear.  Of course, once you save a project, it recalls your settings.
 
On the other hand, all of the "Mastering" presets use the "Medium" precision linear setting.  These will still require an adjustment in the "Expert" menu, if you wish to override the default setting.
2017/01/28 10:10:00
leemac
Thanks for your time and kind reply. Never stop learning from the kind folk on the server.
Thank You
2017/01/28 13:05:01
Sanderxpander
I honestly don't see why "mixing" presets default to minimum phase, most times I'd want linear phase during mixing, unless I'm doing significant low cuts or something. Latency is never an issue during mixing, only during tracking.
2017/01/28 14:22:57
abacab
Sanderxpander
I honestly don't see why "mixing" presets default to minimum phase, most times I'd want linear phase during mixing, unless I'm doing significant low cuts or something. Latency is never an issue during mixing, only during tracking.



You can create a new folder in the presets menu, call it whatever you like, and then modify and save your versions of the presets there at whatever precision you want.
2017/01/28 17:22:23
Sanderxpander
Yeah it was just a general musing as I don't see why one would assume linear phase is only useful for mastering. Maybe it's a CPU thing? Latency shouldn't be an issue during most mixing processes.
2017/01/28 17:52:12
abacab
Sanderxpander
Yeah it was just a general musing as I don't see why one would assume linear phase is only useful for mastering. Maybe it's a CPU thing? Latency shouldn't be an issue during most mixing processes.




If you only work with soft synths it can be a big deal unless you freeze them first.
2017/01/28 17:58:39
Sanderxpander
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Latency should still be irrelevant unless you're tracking.
2017/01/28 18:15:34
abacab
Sanderxpander
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Latency should still be irrelevant unless you're tracking.



That's exactly what I'm saying.  That these tools are very useful for tracking.  Just skip the linear precision, which is not necessary for tracking.  The original versions had the default mode and all presets set to linear, which was a pain to disable every time you switched to a new preset.
 
They have different modes, linear, or non-linear, depending on what you need to do.
 
I think the sound shaping features of these plugins makes them some of the best all purpose FX tools that Platinum provides.  The interfaces are very usable, and I especially like the way that you can just drag the bands around, solo them, etc, it's very cool!
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