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2017/01/18 20:56:24
telecharge
People are going to piss and moan. Sometimes it's justified, sometimes not. That's just the way it is, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
 
I really believe relations in the Cakewalk community and sentiment towards Cakewalk would improve if the company would just communicate better to let us know where things stand. I'm talking about things like notation, the Mac version, the support overhaul, etc.
2017/01/18 21:10:38
ccm
Anderton
...and it also shows why this forum can be very, very cool.
 
On December 10, THambrecht posted a thread "Mysterious Behavior After Splitting Audioclips."


Is his any way related with the corrupted audio thread  from November?
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3512277
If so & will be fixed is good news.
2017/01/18 22:27:15
Danny Danzi
chuckebaby
I think it is clear there are some people on this forum that simply love to stir the pot.
Some im not even sure are still even using Sonar or have it loaded on their PC.
 
There are some people on this forum who have helped me (not only solve my problems) but have also given me some really good direction and ideas. This forum is only as good as the people you have in it. This forum became 10X times better when Craig started being a regular here. Its as if you were given a gift.
Just remember, If you drive away all the good users who have good knowledge, you are only hurting yourself and others that need good help.
 
With all this being said, I've felt frustrated lately with this forum. I feel like there are some who don't appreciate the time people put in to help them and then there's the negativity. Im part to blame myself as well. I control my own destiny.
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 
Its one thing to explain your problems productively and bring attention to your issues. But the complaining, negativity and selfishness I can do without and that is what will drive away good people from offering help and being a regular on this forum. Without those people who will you complain too ?
 


We'll said Chuck. Why do you think I've cut my participation down to nothing? Dealing with too many idiots pushed me to my limits. People that wouldn't dare speak like they do on this forum, directly to a man's face. So rather than upset myself, I've stayed far away from this place and am super selective in who or what I get involved with.

And the mods let it all happen. I'm not talking forum hosts, I'm talking people with power. All the time, info, and awesome knowledge people with good hearts give to this forum for the price of an internet connection....only to be abused. It's not worth the aggravation nor the time any longer.

This place actually killed my forum participation in other places too because I got such a bad taste in my mouth. It has never taken care of its own or made those that contribute feel they matter. It's always "use the ignore button" instead of taking care of blatant problems. I miss and love some of the people on here, but I've always hated how this place was run. Sad but true.
2017/01/18 23:35:02
John
Danny Danzi
chuckebaby
I think it is clear there are some people on this forum that simply love to stir the pot.
Some im not even sure are still even using Sonar or have it loaded on their PC.
 
There are some people on this forum who have helped me (not only solve my problems) but have also given me some really good direction and ideas. This forum is only as good as the people you have in it. This forum became 10X times better when Craig started being a regular here. Its as if you were given a gift.
Just remember, If you drive away all the good users who have good knowledge, you are only hurting yourself and others that need good help.
 
With all this being said, I've felt frustrated lately with this forum. I feel like there are some who don't appreciate the time people put in to help them and then there's the negativity. Im part to blame myself as well. I control my own destiny.
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 
Its one thing to explain your problems productively and bring attention to your issues. But the complaining, negativity and selfishness I can do without and that is what will drive away good people from offering help and being a regular on this forum. Without those people who will you complain too ?
 


We'll said Chuck. Why do you think I've cut my participation down to nothing? Dealing with too many idiots pushed me to my limits. People that wouldn't dare speak like they do on this forum, directly to a man's face. So rather than upset myself, I've stayed far away from this place and am super selective in who or what I get involved with.

And the mods let it all happen. I'm not talking forum hosts, I'm talking people with power. All the time, info, and awesome knowledge people with good hearts give to this forum for the price of an internet connection....only to be abused. It's not worth the aggravation nor the time any longer.

This place actually killed my forum participation in other places too because I got such a bad taste in my mouth. It has never taken care of its own or made those that contribute feel they matter. It's always "use the ignore button" instead of taking care of blatant problems. I miss and love some of the people on here, but I've always hated how this place was run. Sad but true.

I agree with everything that was said here. Its very sad to hear and for me its its telling me I have failed. I am so sorry that two of some very fine members have to post this sort of thing. 
 
It should have not have happened. What this thread was all about was how to successfully get a bug fixed.  Its intent was to give those with issues a way to solve their problem. What it turned into was a bashing circus for  malcontents. They also attacked one of the most helpful and prolific members we have, Mr. Anderton. Questioning his credibility. Who questions the credibility of those attacking him? What is their agenda? It certainly can't to shed light on an issue or help with solving one.  
 
I apologize to you all for not finding a way to set things right. Because this thread was started by Craig I thought he could handle the situation. I'm sure he could if he had the time to devote to removing the noise from a very good thread. The problem is no one including me said its time to shut up and stop the nonsense. It went too far. 
 
Please let me know how you feel about threads that get under your skin. Perhaps we together can find a way to improve how we deal with this sort of thing.      
2017/01/19 00:07:00
telecharge
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time here, but I don't see that much negativity. This thread being an exception.
 
If people are really getting that upset over some criticism and haters, then it's probably best that they do take a break.

2017/01/19 04:11:57
mettelus
Being the one who is referred to in the OP, I found this thread a bit more entertaining than most, but also found some of the OP's comments as highly negative and biased. The only real thing that came to mind in response was "rumor has it that Twitter is a great vehicle for those into self-aggrandizement and (often) defamation of those who do not agree with them... definitely cuts down on the number of words to read that way." As soon as things get contentious, numerous long-winded responses ensue. What never changes in any of them is the underlying intent.
 
I did come away with the realization that "canned response" is a misnomer for this situation, since "canned behavior" is actually the shoe which fits.
2017/01/19 04:58:22
Zargg
chuckebaby
 
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 


I agree with everything you wrote Chuck. 
I have done the same myself lately. And I do NOT blame hosts for this. 
I don't care if a person has issues, if they are not appreciative of the help they get.
I have a longer and longer list of people I just don't bother trying to help if they come "asking" for help. 
It's a shame...
2017/01/19 07:39:27
chuckebaby
John
 
I apologize to you all for not finding a way to set things right.     




John, there's no reason you should be apologizing man.
This is one of those threads that starts off for positive reasons but a few people drag it right down the pipe.
 
There are some people that you can not and will not ever please no matter how hard you try.
2017/01/19 09:25:29
subtlearts
Hmm. 
 
I don't think anyone can really blame Craig for limiting his involvement here... there are a number of people who seem to have it in for him in a very focused, vindictive way, and that isn't much fun. They are entitled to their opinions, of course, but I am never really able to figure out what there is to gain by relentlessly targeting every post from someone who is pretty clear about his generally helpful intentions, and wilfully looking at them through the darkest possible lens. Anyway whatever it is they gain, for the rest of us it's a loss, but it's hard not to sympathize; he's obviously a very busy guy with a lot of other things to do that he probably doesn't get crapped on for. I think I wouldn't have lasted as long as he has. Hopefully he'll still pop in from time to time; I'm not half as busy (or at least I don't get half as much done, which is not the same thing necessarily) and that's all I've ever been able to do - long periods of silence punctuated by occasional waves of a bit more input. 
 
I did make a little attempt, back there, to gently nudge the thread in a more constructive, thoughtful direction, but it didn't seem to catch on. So it goes. 
2017/01/19 11:14:19
telecharge
Anderton
I'm sure some people will be able to put some kind of negative spin on this - it's possible to put a negative spin on just about anything



It's a self-fulfilling prophesy. Word to the wise: Don't invite negativity into your thread -- stay positive, take the high road, keep calm and carry on, etc. Also, try to appreciate the difference between criticism and negativity.
 
Yes, we are all human beings with feelings, to take a page from the Reaper forum, but no one here is beyond reproach.
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