Now I said I would seek the horse/MS who is causing this not only for me...And I did do as I said I would do.
 
It is not going to be fixed any time soon..if so is as is above said and deployed.
 
Mac is no angel either , and trace and track are no doubt in some form doing same old same old...and , if it be a consolation to anyone....It does not effect my apps at all on MAC PRO...although it cost more so...I find I have more works to do, and get em done with...in doing with the mac at this time...so, why is it PC is not?...and I only have one answer...OS.
 
So, if anyone be seeking a newer sound card, or getting the best gear....if Putting it on a PC with MS oses...It is a task...and some may find that bliss with.
 
Yet if you are not finding it, and seeking a way....it will work if you get it working, turn off the internet and auto updates so it should not sabotage your settings or setup.
 
As they have done too many times here....It can happen to you.
 
If noise pops clicks and hangs be you experience.....It is background services doing what they do, interupting cpu and or memory or caching spooled info and sending while you work.//latency problems when none were before updating?...got that people?
 
That said....Prove me wrong?...I got techs said I am right!
 
 
Best of the New...out with the old?...
 
I say Cheers...and pick the best one to do the best for..in Good tidings!
 
That is my offerings to these fine folks who make Magic happen with Music!
 
Got to inform Cake walk tech Mike Now....as I said I would keep him informed....and all of you with my findings!
 
 
Sir Les

Hay bitflipper...It is not clear?...MS is Microsoft...win 10 or below is not working with any of the gear I bought new or older...builds of i7 of asus...and or intel 6 core or more..4 also...and firewire, or usb for most I tried Motu...and others on or with win7...and m powered avid and onwards to others...still no glory...and I got Motu again...828x thunderbolt to over ride the firewire or usb...direct is best...eh?
 
So, not sure what new gear if told to buy one should..if not doing as asked...I did do.
 
 
Clear is unclear...only because you may have all working?...are you sure it will continue to do so?.
 
That is where I fell into the whole buy buy buy.....fix fix fix reality of muse with MS and so on.
 
If they cannot make it work...as said on this build or the below ones ever....what confidence is with the now stated...1607 build is it is patched up to look like it works...or is it working?....too late?...
 
Well fed up is fed up....I moved to MAC..does it matter if unclear is your domain?..nope ...Just saying it to those who want to know...seek it out...find it, or not....could be random to selected few who bash and bother them MS people perhaps?
 
But I paid for all in good faith...perhaps that is the problem with PC....it may be cheaper at first glance in price off the shelf or building...But MS makes it cost more.
 
in the end that table of burnt out gear!
 
 
clear enough?
 
MSI sli x99 is dead right now with unable to boot to win 10....and that is using focusrite pro 40...windows 10 auto updates...and ati...video card driver did that.
 
 
Fed up is not a good word?...does it confuse ?...Pissed off is best then said out loud!
 But it aint something to piss off anyone here...Just saying...as it is long to say, perhaps not the best way said was first put!
 
Sir Les

Not anywhere near clear enough.
Good luck with your Mac.

So far..very good luck...But, if I have a heart of pure ...I may make a contest for the remnants of PC, to hopefuls with Cakewalk to render up a gift of some of...if they can make the inereds work with a os of little choice other than linux or Hackintosh.......
 
Or I may just sell the parts....to regain some dosh wasted.
 
I am not feeling the Love so clear in the air ...I may change my mind of, if enough read into the musing with,...as I care not, what is truly witnessed by those unclear,..those who tried to help...Thanks You, you are a special Breed....keep on keeping on...trying to solve for x...in a undermining reality....I had enough!.
 
 
Cheers!

Hey there, Les - I am VERY VERY sorry you have had such a crazy horrific ride for a long long time, trying to get all of your stuff to work.
 
I TRULY do not understand why your computer gear has such a 'Kick Me' sign on it.
 
I know I spent a bunch of time with you, going back I believe as much as a couple of years, and you and both put in quite a lot of time working to get through a bunch of stuff.
 
If it is of any consolation to you - if it were to help you, and not too pricey to ship to you, the next time I create a new computer build for myself - I would give serious consideration to just giving you my old computer (which is my current one now), as I know it all works well on this one.  I KNOW you have worked hard and for a long time, to get your computer's situation stable and able to run Sonar successfully and stably.  This computer has an AMD A-10 7850 CPU, 32 GB of memory, and multiple hard drives (even a solid-state C: drive), and should fit the bill for your needs - even if by that time in a year or so my current computer would still be viable.
 
Bob Bone
 

Hey Sir Les. Apple Care covers Apple professional apps like Logic. It wasn't cheap for rMBP but covered 3 years and the phone support was great. If your like me and want to talk to the source if issues arise you may want to look into it. The Apple support forums are ok. Cakes forums are much more lively though. Apple Care is one of the reasons I'd be willing to pay premiums for another Apple computer again.

I really can't tell what the issue is because some of the language makes no sense. I'm almost thinking Les is using a program for language conversion. If that's true it could explain a lot.

Yes agreed, I'm sorry I can't offer assistance either as your posts have always been near to impossible to read. 
 
I just gave it a good go and came away with, your system doesn't work. And looking at your specs, it should work. 
So this forum and it's super helpful , talented all knowing members can fix your problem. \\\If the problem is identified. 
 
I can theorize that the mind that writes text of this nature and is seeking help and getting nowhere then this is a simple matter of lack of communication. 
 
Here's what to do.
In ONE paragraph describe your problem. Actually I'm being generous, Try ONE sentence. 

Baffled of Bristol.
 
Not a clue what the issues are in this thread.
 
It's clear there is something wrong with his setup but there are no clear steps to follow

Les, last time I called MS tech support was to find out if I needed to buy Windows 10 if I wanted to dual boot Windows 7 instead of upgrading. After a confusing conversation I was pretty sure it would be possible if I bought the upgrade. So I bought it along with a new SSD for Windows 10. Then during install I called them back to make sure I was doing the install correct because it was confusing when it looked like it was ready to install but had not asked me where to install it. They told me they could not help because they wouldn't support dual boot. They were of no help. I went ahead and did the install which finally did ask me where it install Windows 10. Anyways, all went well and worked out. I like windows 10. Nice OS. Needs work if they want to compete with OS X in my opinion. All the built in apps like Pictures and Groove Player seem lacking in features. Plus I didn't like some of the advertising stuff in tiles and notification center. I know you can remove the tiles but still. And notification center constantly wants me to upgrade to the latest version of office.