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  • Addictive Drums 2 question
2017/01/13 13:58:34
jlhawk
I'm not a midi guy, I use sonar like an multi track tape deck putting down tracks one or two at a time. In the past, I've used EZDrummer 2 as a stand alone program, figuring out my BPM, setting up a drum track in EZDrummer, exporting as a wav, and then importing that wav into my Sonar project. It's a process that has worked well for me. I get the impression I can do something similar with Addictive Drums, and I wondered if anyone could shed some light on the steps necessary to do so. I'm fairly old school in my methods, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to learn new ways to work. I'm loving the software and enjoying the tricks I've learned already...
Thanks for any insights you can share...
Jackson
 
2017/01/13 14:04:05
Lynn
You could save much time by using AD as a VST within your project, thus saving several steps.  Program or choose your beats, and either stay in MIDI mode, or freeze or bounce your tracks.  Much quicker to do all this inside Sonar.
2017/01/13 14:12:06
jlhawk
Lynn;
So I would need to Start with a new midi track, and then insert the vst into that I'm guessing?  I'll play around with it over the weekend. As I mentioned in my original post, I'm not real midi saavy, but I'm definately willing to give it a try. Thanks for the reply.
Jackson
2017/01/13 14:56:35
Lynn
Jack, try insert>soft synth.  It'll save you a step or two.
2017/01/13 15:02:21
Jim Kalinowski
In the Synth rack, click on the red + button.  Find AD2 in the list and select it.  A dialog should come up asking you how many output tracks you want (select one stereo track to keep this easy) and if you want a MIDI input track (check that box because you'll need a MIDI input).
 
This will add AD2 and an input and output track.  Go into AD2's Beats section, find a beat you like and drag it into the MIDI track where you want it.  You can convert the beat into a groove loop and stretch it for as long as you need it.
 
You can drag other beats into the MIDI input track as needed.  Once you're comfortable with that, you can edit the beats using the piano roll view.
2017/01/13 15:17:30
jlhawk
Lynn, Jim;
Thank you for the information. I will try and report back.
Jackson
2017/01/13 15:19:45
Anonymungus!
Hi there - Personally I like to separate the MIDI track and synth track(s). First insert a MIDI track, then "insert synth", at this point you should see the Synth Properties window with several options. Check the box that says "All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo" then click Okay. You should now see about 9 tracks, one for each drum piece.
Now go back to the MIDI track and set its output to AD2.
 
In AD2, I set each output to "Separate Out (Pre Fader)" with or without Master. 
This should get you going BUT you may find that working with AD2 & MIDI can be tricky. You may need to create a Drum Map. Maybe others on the Forum can help with that.
2017/01/13 15:56:56
abacab
You can also setup a project template, track template, and drum map for AD2 that loads the drum instrument and all of the tracks needed for a project.  Takes all the work out of setting up a project.
 
Plus the piano roll will now show the names of the kit pieces.  Very cool! 
 
Then to access this tool, just use either [File> New > AD2 Project] or [Insert > Track Template > Soft Synth Templates > AD2 > AD 2 Track.cwx]
 
It's already done.  Just follow this setup guide.  The zip file can be downloaded from here.  There are just three files you need to copy into your Cakewalk folders to make this work. 
 
Setting up a Drum Map for Addictive Drums 2 in SONAR
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013364/Setting-up-a-Drum-Map-for-Addictive-Drums-2-in-SONAR
 
Step  1 – Download the files you’ll need
Step 2 – Installing the Addictive Drums 2 Project Template
Step 3 – Installing the Addictive Drums 2 Track Template
Step 4 – Installing the Addictive Drums 2 Drum Map
2017/01/13 17:36:42
Bristol_Jonesey
Anonymungus!
Hi there - Personally I like to separate the MIDI track and synth track(s). First insert a MIDI track, then "insert synth", at this point you should see the Synth Properties window with several options. Check the box that says "All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo" then click Okay. You should now see about 9 tracks, one for each drum piece.
Now go back to the MIDI track and set its output to AD2.
 
In AD2, I set each output to "Separate Out (Pre Fader)" with or without Master. 
This should get you going BUT you may find that working with AD2 & MIDI can be tricky. You may need to create a Drum Map. Maybe others on the Forum can help with that.


I would agree with this but I prefer to have my audio tracks as Mono, not Stereo, apart from any Room mics or Overheads.
 
I couldn't tell you if AD2 has this option as I run BFD
2017/01/13 17:58:17
jlhawk
Interestingly, when I attempt to install a synth, XLN Audio AD2 is not listed as an option. It is installed as it shows up in CCC, but I do not see it as an option anywhere in Sonar. User error perhaps, as I mentioned earlier, I'm not a midi guy... 
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