Yeah Sandapanda, right on, maybe that would be a good addition for sonar, loops that actually have chorus,verse,intro,ending and fills.......would be far more useful than just one off loops..........And yeah thats why i prefer to use addictive drums, or even real drums

!!!........which i either play drums myself, which is hardwork, cause im still learning and the anxiety of f.......g up kills me, or i pay a session drummer, which is good, but expensive, and they often dont do what i %100 want........Plus you got to get good drum recordings, at least with loops, the production is top notch.........im considering, mixing loops with my drumming, and using that as a model for a session drummer to go off.