2015/07/18 12:59:01
nedramage
I've reluctantly bought into the subscription model at Cakewalk and I can see how the bug fixes and new feature roll out may be easier for the company.  Cakewalk's plan is an acceptable compromise but now we are seeing Windows shift to software as a service (SAAS).  I could be in the minority but I don't feel comfortable with losing autonomy over hardware I own.  Because if the software won't allow you to do something, you can ask them to change it but you can't fix it.  We've all been getting updates for a long time with good and bad results but we could control their installation or removal.
 
Yesterday I read that the update to Windows 10 home edition is mandatory.  Feature and security updates are mandatory on Windows Home.  On the pro edition there will only be three settings for updates and the default is automatic.  What happens when an automatic update breaks a critical service on your production machine.  Does it need to be permanently disconnected from the Internet?
 
I've used Cakewalk since before it did audio and am very comfortable with it.  I'm not really interested in learning a new DAW but I'm definitely setting up a new Linux box for audio production.  Hopefully there will be some consideration for offering Sonar on Linux.
2015/07/18 13:33:40
Beepster
As much as I would like Sonar for Linux (and have the Bakers come up with their own distro to run Sonar on) your post seems to be filled with a lot of rumor, speculation and errors. I'll be doing what I did when Win 8 came out and it looked like a turd.... I kept my DAW on Win 7. I doubt Sonar is going to drop Win7 support any time soon (nor Win8) so there is plenty of time to see what 10 will bring to the table.
 
Essentially... don't spazz out and buy into the internet fueled doomsday speculations. MS can be dum dum jerks but they're in it to make money. They aren't going to completely p*ss off the bulk of their user base and lose them to Apple who have become a serious threat in the past decade.
 
If anything the massive scramble they did to release Win 8.1 to calm the torch and pitchfork crowd is a pretty good sign that if they screw up 10 they'll fix it. I have high hopes for 10. 8 seemed to be their usual "experimental" release they do in between the wicked awesome releases.
 
I could be wrong but I will leave my panties unsoiled until we have some hard facts. Even then... my DAW works on 7 so if need be I can just lock it down on a solid image and keep working. If worse comes to worse I'm learning more about Linux and the audio options for Linux are growing so by the time this could even maybe sort of potentially become a problem for me then that stuff should be mature.
 
aaaand of course there is always Mac... which if audio people get too fed up with MS the Bakers would likely port to (and may be already now that Gibson is involved and investing in the product).
 
However apparently there was an MS rep at some fancy audio show recently that Mr. Anderton and some of the Bakers attended pushing the audio capabilities of 10 so they aren't ignoring us.
 
In the meantime...
 
/panties unsoiled
2015/07/18 14:29:15
bapu
If they port it anywhere it should be on a Sinclair.

Hooked up to 13" TV screen. Black and White of course.
2015/07/18 17:26:28
tlw
If there was going to be a Linux port it would make sense to do a Mac port at the same time. Linux and OS X aren't the same but OS X is basically a *nix system with a flashy gui and built-in audio and MIDI functions that Microsoft are trailing well behind. Though Win10 is reported as making some steps forward in that regard.

Whether the return on investment would justify a port to either is the question. It wouldn't be a trivial job given how well Cakewalk have integrated their software with Windows over the last 20 years.

As for the regular updates etc. that's the way things are going. Not necessarily a bad thing either.

MS have the problem that out of their main competitors OS X and iOS are free (so long as you buy a Mac), Linux is free and slowly getting more usable for "non-computer people", Chrome is free... Which is probably why when I was browsing the MS website last week to see if I could buy Win8.1 (or 8) as a downloadable iso their store page "Windows" links kept circling me back to pages trying to sell me a PC or tablet. MS probably realise the days you can make enough income from selling an operating system are numbered as the market moves away from PCs to include phones, tablets etc.
2015/07/18 17:55:20
Doktor Avalanche
We seem to be getting more demands for Linux ports than Apple nowadays. Neither will probably happen but still in favour of Linux..
2015/07/18 17:55:20
Doktor Avalanche
Dupe
2015/07/18 17:56:20
Doktor Avalanche
bapu
If they port it anywhere it should be on a Sinclair.

Hooked up to 13" TV screen. Black and White of course.


You will have to fix RAM pack wobble first...
2015/07/18 21:27:10
kevinwal
I'd guess that the cost of moving a system like Sonar to Linux would be much larger than the market could support, at least for the foreseeable future, and the enormous investment would provide zero value to the current membership who would ultimately finance that work. People already squawk about Sonar wasting resources on new features when there are plenty of defects to fix. Imagine the warm and fuzzy reception an announcement about a Linux port would receive.
 
Oh, and for the record, I have absolutely no interest in a Linux DAW, or a Linux anything for that matter. I maintain some Linux boxes for some aspects of my software business and I absolutely hate working in that environment (OpenSuse and Ubuntu) and don't get me started about the tools I have to use. If the OP feels strongly about it, there are OSS DAWs on Linux that could use his support.
2015/07/18 21:45:38
gswitz
Linux Ubuntu studio is awesome.
http://ubuntustudio.org/
2015/07/18 23:32:34
TerraSin
You have two options: get Windows 10 Pro or stay on Windows 7/8.1.
 
I'm not too worried about it. I keep Windows updated (though I delay updates till a point where I'm not working on something) and have only ever had to roll back updates one time. Everyone likes to freak out over possibilities that likely won't happen.
 
The fact is that Cake has said many times they aren't interested in working on versions for other OS's so asking again is not unlike talking to a brick wall. It's just not going to happen and I'm okay with that. Would rather them focus on one OS than many.
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