2018/01/19 23:24:12
TheMaartian
Look for user 2:43AM (Tony; http://forum.cakewalk.com/Profile/78182/). He's a beta tester. I have the suspicion that he's underwhelmed. To quote a bit of his PM to me: "boy is it not that significant of an upgrade!"
2018/01/20 15:04:42
Starise
I see this two ways. One way says we need lots of improvements and extras. The other way says if you have a good thing don't tamper with it much. Too many additions and the software is called bloated.
 
Ableton seem to be following a similar line to Reason in keeping the program core the same. Although there do appear to be a lot of new additions to 10. Probably more useful to the person who only stays in Ableton 10.
2018/01/20 15:17:44
aidanodr
I have ABLETON 8, never went to 9 as I was happy with SONAR at the time.
 
During all the panic  I went and stumped for STUDIO ONE v3 .. in a bit of a rush TBH. After I was thinking, for less I could have upgraded to Live 9 and get the 10 for free ( Standard ).

Im sort of regretting the S1 purchase now as I really am not using it much.  

So Im just wondering and considering. How would people balance S1 to Live 9/10? Im thinking of flogging my S1 License before the Ableton offer goes shortly OR should I stick with S1? Thoughts appreciated? Keep in mind I have Live 8 .. not 9/10 yet ..



2018/01/20 15:32:33
Starise
I would have them both if I could. They both have strengths the other doesn't have. 
 
Much of it depends on you and how you work. I was also happy with Sonar. 
 
I seem to have happened into some of this. In the case of Studio One. I bought one of their interfaces a long time ago which had a copy of artist in the deal. I was signed up to their email specials. That software just sat and gathered dust until I seen a special deal and upgraded. From then on it was easier to upgrade. I kept upgrading it even though I didn't use it as much as Sonar.
 
A similar thing happened with Ableton. Version 4 was a great deal and I had it. Also sat on a shelf gathering dust until I needed to do some live work and seen Ableton had a deal going. For probably a third or less of the retail price I was able to upgrade each one...so I figure why not?
 
Ableton is mainly used by loopers and DJ's in what they call the session view. There must be 100 controllers that you can buy to use with session view. I mostly DON'T use the session view. I use tracks view much like a traditional daw. The nice thing about Ableton is you can do that. It is probably the easiest daw there is to map midi to. Push one button and map..simple. In that sense I'm probably not the typical Ableton user.
 
The other real asset to Ableton is the warping features. If you do a lot of key changes and pitch changes it would pay to look into warping.Still feels odd compared to Sonar. When I seriously compose acoustic instruments I use Sonar or Studio One. Then I might put those tracks into Ableton.
2018/01/20 15:59:08
aidanodr
Starise
I would have them both if I could. They both have strengths the other doesn't have. 
 
Much of it depends on you and how you work. I was also happy with Sonar. 
 
...... Ableton is mainly used by loopers and DJ's in what they call the session view. There must be 100 controllers that you can buy to use with session view. I mostly DON'T use the session view. I use tracks view much like a traditional daw. The nice thing about Ableton is you can do that. It is probably the easiest daw there is to map midi to. Push one button and map..simple. In that sense I'm probably not the typical Ableton user.
 
The other real asset to Ableton is the warping features. If you do a lot ofy changes and pitch changes it would pay to look into warping.Still feels odd compared to Sonar. When I seriously compose acoustic instruments I use Sonar or Studio One. Then I might put those tracks into Ableton.




Thanks Starise.
 
While I am traditionally a guitarist, in recent years I have been doing alot of ambient and instrumental stuff with soft synths and samples. I am a huge Tangerine Dream, Jarre, Sylvian, Vangelis, Yello type fan :D .. love retro synths from 70s, 80s so use the ARTURIA stuff alot. I have ALL my software on a decent laptop with a small 32 key M-Audio keyboard and a wireless set of headphones. I love the portability of that.

Sonar since the 90s did me just fine. Dabbled with Live 8. However now I have Studio 1 unused. I also bought Samplitude ridiculous deal with Vegas and Soundforge included. And then even more ridiculous, I bought TRACKTION Waveform Ultimate for less than $50. So I am well DAWed up :D

Outside of Sonar I quiet like Tracktion actually. 

So that gives you an idea what I use a DAWs for ... And whether I should as you said, keep both Studio One while upgrading to Live 9/10 or doing the latter while flogging S1. The FREE 10 upgrade is the main thing that is attractive me thinks. 


2018/01/20 16:33:36
pwalpwal
i'm using studio one, with ableton live for the "fannying about" part
 
i think i'm gonna leave this upgrade for a while, i'm not using live enough at the mo to justify it
2018/01/20 16:35:44
pwalpwal
aidanodr
I have ABLETON 8, never went to 9 as I was happy with SONAR at the time.
 
During all the panic  I went and stumped for STUDIO ONE v3 .. in a bit of a rush TBH. After I was thinking, for less I could have upgraded to Live 9 and get the 10 for free ( Standard ).

Im sort of regretting the S1 purchase now as I really am not using it much.  

So Im just wondering and considering. How would people balance S1 to Live 9/10? Im thinking of flogging my S1 License before the Ableton offer goes shortly OR should I stick with S1? Thoughts appreciated? Keep in mind I have Live 8 .. not 9/10 yet ..







they're really quite different beasts, so go with the one you currently use the most, there will always be other/upgrade opportunities in the future
2018/01/20 16:43:39
CakeAlexSHere
I have both, different workflows are cool.
2018/01/20 16:58:29
pwalpwal
CakeAlexSHere
I have both, different workflows are cool.



who cares?
2018/01/20 17:38:01
CakeAlexSHere
pwalpwal
no personal anecdotes to share?


pwalpwal
i'm using studio one, with ableton live for the "fannying about" part.


CakeAlexSHere
I have both, different workflows are cool.


pwalpwal
who cares?


Oh sorry I forgot your thread so you are entitled to be rude as per usual even when people agree with you. Gets kinda boring imho, if you want a nice forums then be nice.
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