• SONAR
  • Query: Can I integrate Guitar Pro via Rewire into Sonar for MIDI composition?
2017/01/11 12:50:27
Beepster
Edit (for clarification): I am referring to the tablature/notation software Guitar Pro. More deets here...
 
https://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php?pg=guitar-pro-6
 
Hello, all. Hope everyone is off to a good new year.
 
This may be a dumb/fundementally flawed question because I have not as of yet given myself a full crash course into exactly what Rewire is capable of... nor have I used Guitar Pro for ages (and barely poked at it back in the day when I did).
 
However I am curious as to whether GP can be Rewired into Sonar (Platinum) for MIDI sequencing purposes.
 
eg: I would like to use GP to do notation and/or tablature based MIDI sequencing then feed it directly into Sonar to MIDI tracks feeding synths in the Synth Rack and of course have that feed into instrument/audio tracks for mixing the results in real time.
 
Essentially GP would act as my notation/composition software and SPlat would handle everything else. I want to do this for my guitar lesson stuff so I can kill multiple birds at once (I won't bore you with the details and am not even sure what those details would look like yet which is why I'm asking).
 
So has anyone done this and/or are there any up to date Guitar Pro users on site who can give some insight/opinions/reviews on the current GP release and it's capabilities?
 
Thanks in advance and have an enjoyably nerdy day.
 
Cheeeeers!
2017/01/11 12:53:20
Beepster
DAMMIT! This was supposed to be posted to the SONAR forum.
 
Any hosts around who could move it there for me? Sorry doods. Apparently I have forgotten how to post threads properly.
 
Derp.
2017/01/11 13:23:02
John
Not to worry Beep all is well. 
 
Now I'm curious. Why do you think you need GP when you have Sonar? 
2017/01/11 13:40:09
Beepster
Thanks, John.
 
And to answer your question it's for some of the ultra specific guitar oriented tab/notation tools AND that GP files are kind of a standard for guitar educational material. If you poke around the internet for guitar tablature you'll generally see a lot of text based tabs (which I am proficient at but they are a bear to type up manually and are really limited for the end user) and GP files for users to download and open in GP which are much more thorough/informative/editable/etc (as well as being multi-track).
 
It's just kind of the go to program for guitar dorks and that, of course, will be my main audience.
 
By being able to integrate it into Sonar it would allow me to offer a bunch of formats at once for any prospective students by way of the GP files, standard MIDI files, regular audio files, hard copy notation and tablature files (for printout), etc.
 
Also being a guitar related program it offers quite a bit more in the way of scale and chord options for composition and eductaional purposes for guitar players.
 
It's kind of like why orchestral folks would use something like Sibelus or other high end notation software except it's geared toward guitar freaks (which require a whole 'nother level of intracies due to the nature of guitar due to the massive amount of alternate voicings/positions/etc than other instruments).
 
Hopefully that makes sense.
 
Cheers and thanks again for moving this.
2017/01/11 13:44:47
Beepster
And for the curious here is their features page....
 
https://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php?pg=guitar-pro-6
 
Don't work for them nor am I attempting to promote them. Most serious guitar players know what GP is all about but it might shed some light as to WHY it's a useful tool for us noodle monkeys.
 
;-)
2017/01/11 13:56:08
John
I thought you were talking about the guitar tracks pro from Cakewalk. https://www.cakewalk.com/Press/Release/1135/06-16-09-Cakewalk-Guitar-Tracks-Pro-4
 
I see its a different program. I couldn't find a rewire ability in the GP program. But it seems it will export MIDI and XML as well as wave files.
 
Sonar supports tablature too. 
2017/01/11 14:04:57
Beepster
Heh... no. Not Guitar Tracks at all. GP isn't a DAW so much as a notation/MIDI sequencer.
 
It does have MIDI export fershure but I guess I'm wondering if it can stream live MIDI out via Rewire. Not even sure if Rewire DOES that (or is it only for audio output from a sequencer?).
 
And I guess another pertinent question would be does the program being fed into another program via Rewire (in this case Guitar Pro into SONAR) have to have special coding for Rewire? Sorry... probably a poorly phrased question.
 
Do BOTH programs (sender and receiver) require some special Rewire capability?
 
Like I said... not very well versed on this stuff yet... thus the thread.
 
Edit: And Sonar in no way can handle what I'd need to throw at it nor export to the GP file format I need. Not a dig or request. It would be ridiculous for Cake to even consider wasting time on trying to create it's own in house version of GP. I have however mentioned in the past how I think GP would be an EXCELLENT third party partner to solve its notation woes. As in approach the GP creators to figure out how to integrate it into SONAR's MIDI capabilities BUT charge for that option as an add on. That of course is just the musings of a mildly insane guitar geek. I think GP may have a corporate deal with other DAWs anyway that might conflict with such an arrangement. Not sure.
2017/01/11 14:25:45
John
Rewire can stream MIDI and audio. Rewire only works if both programs support it. 
2017/01/11 14:43:57
Beepster
John
Rewire can stream MIDI and audio. Rewire only works if both programs support it. 




Perfect. Now I just need to figure out definitively if GP has Rewire capabilites... which as you noted is not immediately apparent from their literature but I will dig deeper (or wait for another user here to chime in).
 
Thanks.
2017/01/11 14:48:18
John
If you have it, that is GP, you should have that as an option.
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