2015/01/15 16:10:12
declan
mettelus
mudgel

Also with respect to add ons from 3Rd party companies, we got TH 2 Producer, I upgraded to the full version, now a couple of years later guess what TH2 full version is included. Shortly after getting Addictive drums 1 we were encouraged to upgrade to Addictive Drums 2 and now we get it free with he next Sonar release.



I am pretty sure that TH2 is only the "TH2 Producer" version (not full), and that the AD2 Bundle is not the "upgrade"... it only includes the "AD2 engine," similar to the AD2 "gripe threads" recently.
 



I have X3P and I use AD1 extensively but have never bought any of the AD packs or anything else from XLN.
 
Is there any downside to only having the AD2 "engine" given I'm going to have so much more content?  Will I still be able to use AD1 (with it's somewhat minimal content)?
 
That's the complete kicker for me going the Platinum route (VocalSync & everything else just isn't persuasive to me). 
 
Forgive my ignorance & thanks.
 
2015/01/15 19:12:48
dwardzala
declan
mettelus
mudgel

Also with respect to add ons from 3Rd party companies, we got TH 2 Producer, I upgraded to the full version, now a couple of years later guess what TH2 full version is included. Shortly after getting Addictive drums 1 we were encouraged to upgrade to Addictive Drums 2 and now we get it free with he next Sonar release.



I am pretty sure that TH2 is only the "TH2 Producer" version (not full), and that the AD2 Bundle is not the "upgrade"... it only includes the "AD2 engine," similar to the AD2 "gripe threads" recently.
 



I have X3P and I use AD1 extensively but have never bought any of the AD packs or anything else from XLN.
 
Is there any downside to only having the AD2 "engine" given I'm going to have so much more content?  Will I still be able to use AD1 (with it's somewhat minimal content)?
 
That's the complete kicker for me going the Platinum route (VocalSync & everything else just isn't persuasive to me). 
 
Forgive my ignorance & thanks.
 


The AD1 stuff won't work in AD2 unless you upgrade it with XLN.  Depending on the version of Sonar (Professional or Platinum) you get either 1 or 3 ADPaks which I assume you pick when you install AD2.
2015/01/15 19:34:37
declan
Thanks dwardzala.  I'm definitely going for Platinum, I guess I'll have to take great care in selecting all my packs.
2015/01/15 20:06:37
Dave Modisette
AD2 will likely never get used by me on a project.  Although, I did use it to help test the wrappers for the new EZplayer Pro 1.2.0 that's just been released.

I'm after Core improvements like the revised Audio Snap (which I hope has better detection algorithms), stackable FX and Sends in the Console (which I have probably whined about for 4 years), Vocal alignment tool and the Drum Replacer which is in process.

I haven't used X3 in a single project so the core improvements there will be like new toys to me, as well.
 
EDIT:  I forgot to officially mention - Platinum.
2015/01/15 20:10:31
Outris
So, I upgraded to X3 Producer just 14 days ago. While I'm told I will receive a "discount" on the new Sonar, I've barely had time to get into Producer. Not ready throw more $$ in the pot. Would have been nice to know about the new release before I paid for the upgrade :-(.
2015/01/15 20:13:43
Dave Modisette
Outris
So, I upgraded to X3 Producer just 14 days ago. While I'm told I will receive a "discount" on the new Sonar, I've barely had time to get into Producer. Not ready throw more $$ in the pot. Would have been nice to know about the new release before I paid for the upgrade :-(.

This happens every time there is an upgrade.  Maybe the new membership model will help to keep this sort of thing from happening.
2015/01/15 22:14:00
scottfa
I downgraded from X2 Producer to X3 Studio because I had comparable or better synths and plug ins(Kontakt,UAD, Superior Drummer etc) so it was of little value for the price.  So Platinum is out of the question . Not enough content that I would use. I am questioning  upgrading at all based on Cakewalk's teasers for the next few months. I too would prefer core improvements. How about some advance info on a better ACT? Or speeding up load times? THAT would be a better approach to getting my money. By the way, I have purchased Cakewalk products before they  incorporated audio. Right now I have Reaper and Studio One Pro on my computer and am considering my future path.
2015/01/15 22:30:42
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
scottfa
So Platinum is out of the question .




Really? An extra $50 for one year of mystery stuff seems a bargain to me.
2015/01/15 22:44:11
Vastman
Well, Scottfa... you'll soon have all the info you need as early adopters buy in... I am totally happy with X3 already so do whatever works for you...enjoy the journey, wherever it may lead!
2015/01/15 22:58:39
scottfa
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
scottfa
So Platinum is out of the question .




Really? An extra $50 for one year of mystery stuff seems a bargain to me.


Gheesh, why is taking quotes out of  context fashionable? Did you see any mention if money? Value for price was the point. If X3 Producer did not provide value, this rendition of Platinum provides even less for me. Did you notice the plugins I have listed? I don't have a problem spending money on items I deem have value, but the path that Cakewalk has laid out does not have value for me. If I want to spend $50 on a mystery this year I can think of several items my wife and I could use together that have a higher potential:)
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