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2004/10/04 15:51:32
notfadeaway...
Yes, that is wrong.


Wow, this is interesting stuff....I must be really bored...........Can't say I totally agree, after the version is off my computer and useless to me, but then again, I'm not a lawbreaker so I would just suck it up and use it as a doorstop! thanks for the answer.
2004/10/04 15:52:23
jphilpit
I'm not a lawyer, and don't play one on television. But I think the common sense answer to notfadeaway's question is that if you buy the S4 at the new-purchase price, now you have two licenses and can arguably sell the S3 license to someone else for their exclusive use.

But if you buy an upgrade (probably at a reduced price) then you're not buying a new license, only piggybacking on the old license. In that case, both S3 and S4 use the same license and it is unarguably illegal to sell the S3 for someone else to use (as opposed to being able to admire the artwork on the CD).

To make this argument even more specific:
-- new-purchase price of S4PE from Cakewalk: $959 (includes license)
-- upgrade price from S3PE to S4PE: $179 (no new license included)

That is, Cakewalk is charging $780 for the license and the new features.
2004/10/04 15:54:08
notfadeaway...
But if you buy an upgrade (probably at a reduced price) then you're not buying a new license, only piggybacking on the old license.



yeah , that was my thinking, I was buying a new license, thus giving up any right to the old one, but apparently not.....upgrade, or not, same deal. it's wrong.....huh
2004/10/04 15:55:59
NYSR
Cakewalk used to have more copy protection than they do now. They used to require a CD Key and a serial number.

I remember being shocked when Cakewalk version 5 installed on my computer when I left both the serial number and CD key entry fields blank!

I uninstalled it and reinstalled it with the correct information just to make sure - but what a surprise!
2004/10/04 15:58:03
ghijkmnop
I'm not a lawbreaker so I would just suck it up and use it as a doorstop! thanks for the answer.
Keep the old versions for when all the DRM/DMCA stuff gets really out of hand and you decide to go back to Windows 9x and a PII-450.
2004/10/04 16:06:13
buddylee61
ORIGINAL: ghijkmnop

I'm not a lawbreaker so I would just suck it up and use it as a doorstop! thanks for the answer.
Keep the old versions for when all the DRM/DMCA stuff gets really out of hand and you decide to go back to Windows 9x and a PII-450.


LOL Jeff I actually have a Win98 PII 450 sitting in my office unused right now....I was wondering why I was saving it...
2004/10/04 16:08:50
buddylee61
Heres another scenario.
I am running Sonar 3 PE on my DAW. I also have copies of S2.2XL and PA9. Is it legal for me to install one of those versions on my 14 yr old sons computer for him to use? He's a budding musician.
2004/10/04 16:09:27
notfadeaway...
"Windows 9x and a PII-450."

AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER !!!!

I am 24, so I'm spoiled, I learned how to type on a Pentium II with at least Windows 95..

What is this Windows 9x you speak of!??
2004/10/04 16:20:38
jphilpit
My not-a-lawyer status hasn't changed in the last few minutes, but...

Anyone else, even is close a DNA replicant as your talented son, is still someone else, so you're violating the license agreement you agreed to when you installed your first Cakewalk license.

Some companies allow a single person to install the software on 2 different computers (for example a desktop and a laptop), but the assumption is that the person will not use them simultaneously. I am not sure whether Cakewalk allows that. (I have to admit I didn't read the agreement very carefully when I installed S3.)
2004/10/04 16:22:05
jphilpit
What is this Windows 9x you speak of!??


LOL, youth!

Windows 9x is both Windows 95 and Windows 98.

PS, I learned to type before there was even an IBM Selectric. (If you need to ask what that is, google it.)
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