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2016/12/23 11:41:48
jjvibes
hello all, and first happy holidays to all. And, thanks all for your patiences as this area of DAW is QUITE new for me.
Before I get started I know I already asked this, but still need help.
And here my goal(s)
-To link Garritan sound Multi Aria player as ONE instance, therefore I can use all 16 tracks.
What I can do:
load Garritan and the software's do connect, but for each track Aria loads separately. therefore channel one is the default. i.e. 3 tracks=Aria popping up a total of three times.
what I have done:
-tried switching midi channels to correspond for each track
-gone to garritan web site to read up on this
-reading manual as of recent
-will try youtube and FORUM!!
I am confused with:
-midi vs instrument track and how route correctly..not sure if I should worry about busing...
 
Hope to be less ignorant in 2017!
 
thank you all for ANY help!!
2016/12/23 12:55:27
abacab
jjvibes
hello all, and first happy holidays to all. And, thanks all for your patiences as this area of DAW is QUITE new for me.
Before I get started I know I already asked this, but still need help.
And here my goal(s)
-To link Garritan sound Multi Aria player as ONE instance, therefore I can use all 16 tracks.
What I can do:
load Garritan and the software's do connect, but for each track Aria loads separately. therefore channel one is the default. i.e. 3 tracks=Aria popping up a total of three times.
what I have done:
-tried switching midi channels to correspond for each track
-gone to garritan web site to read up on this
-reading manual as of recent
-will try youtube and FORUM!!
I am confused with:
-midi vs instrument track and how route correctly..not sure if I should worry about busing...
 
Hope to be less ignorant in 2017!
 
thank you all for ANY help!!



Try this:
 
Add 16 MIDI tracks to a new project.  Add one instrument instance of Cakewalk TTS-1, which I used, to follow along with this example. Get this working and then you can repeat the same process and substitute Garritan for TTS-1.
 
Set Sonar Track View to show I/O. 
http://www.cakewalk.com/D...;help=Tutorial1.6.html
To expand a track to make all of its controls visible:
1. Point the cursor to the bottom edge of the track.
2. Click and drag down to reveal all track controls.
 
Look at the 1st MIDI track.  You should see three selection drop down fields (Tip: hover your cursor over the little gray icon at the left of each field).
Input = [your MIDI controller]
Output = [TTS-1]
MIDI Channel = [1: Cakewalk TTS-1]
 
Now look at 2nd MIDI track.  You should see the same setup.  EXCEPT now you change the third drop down selection field to MIDI channel 2 (You should see all 16 available when you click the drop down arrow).
MIDI Channel = [2: Cakewalk TTS-1]
 
Play a note and now you should see track #2 on the TTS-1 receive the note and play the instrument that is selected in TTS-1 slot #2.  The instruments in TTS-1 are paired up with MIDI channels 1-16 for instrument slots 1-16, respectively.
 
Repeat this for MIDI track 3 and so on, for as many as you need, up to 16.
 
To play one or more of the MIDI channels together, enable the MIDI echo button on the desired MIDI tracks (it's normally active only for the currently selected track).
 
When you play your MIDI controller, the MIDI data is echoed to all tracks with echo enabled.  If no sounds, or the wrong sounds play in your instrument, you probably need to check this.
2016/12/23 15:02:32
jjvibes
ok, thanks when I select output I don't have TTS-1 option.
I have from the drop down: master, preview, metronome. if I click on audio outputs I am only given my audio interface.
I will get this!
2016/12/23 15:17:37
Bristol_Jonesey
Go back to basics with an empty project.
 
Either from the Browser, locate and drag into Track view the TTS-1 synth, or go Insert > Soft Synth and again select TTS-1
 
You should be presented with a dialog box where you check certain items.
Check Midi Source and All Synth Audio Outputs: Mono
 
This will create 9 tracks for you - 8 audio and 1 midi.
 
All 16 of the TTS-1 default to the Piano sound at the bottom apart from Channel 10 which defaults to Drums
you can select and audition different patches by clicking the note icon at the bottom of the screen
2016/12/23 15:41:33
abacab
jjvibes
ok, thanks when I select output I don't have TTS-1 option.
I have from the drop down: master, preview, metronome. if I click on audio outputs I am only given my audio interface.
I will get this!



If you see audio outputs, you are looking at the wrong type of track.  The audio tracks have the wave icon, the MIDI tracks have a round icon that looks like a plug (5-pin MIDI DIN connector). The audio tracks have the drop down: master, preview, metronome, etc.
 
The instrument plugin itself will have an audio output default to the Master bus, but don't worry about that yet.  It should take care of itself ...
 
So ...
 
1. Insert a MIDI track. 
Insert > MIDI Track.  MIDI tracks don't have audio outputs.  When you insert a standalone MIDI track (not an audio track, or instrument track) you won't see any instruments in the output selector until you add one.
 
2. Insert the Cakewalk TTS-1 GM synth (or any instrument) as an instrument track. It will create it's own audio output automatically.
Insert > Soft Synth > [your choice]
Once you do this, you can select it as a MIDI output option from the MIDI track you added in step #1.
 
Any instruments that have been inserted into your project will show up as outputs for your MIDI track.  You need this track to route your controller, or your MIDI pattern clips, to trigger the chosen sound in your instrument.
 
3. Set up as many of the MIDI tracks as you have active instrument slots in your plugin (TTS-1). 
 
Each MIDI track can route to only one instrument and only one MIDI channel, 1-16 on that instrument.  That is why you will probably need to use more than one MIDI track to work with your Garritan plugin.  Each slot in that will require its own MIDI track.  So practice with the TTS-1 until you get the hang of it, because we all have it and can answer your questions about it.
 
You will need each MIDI track to fire a separate instrument in the plugin (TTS-1), based on the assigned MIDI channel for that MIDI track.  You can put a MIDI pattern in each MIDI track, or select a MIDI track and send MIDI data (note on, note off, etc.) from your keyboard controller via that track's MIDI channel.  The MIDI tracks are what send MIDI data to the instrument to play it.
2016/12/23 15:58:07
abacab
Bristol_Jonesey
Go back to basics with an empty project.
 
Either from the Browser, locate and drag into Track view the TTS-1 synth, or go Insert > Soft Synth and again select TTS-1
 
You should be presented with a dialog box where you check certain items.
Check Midi Source and All Synth Audio Outputs: Mono
 
This will create 9 tracks for you - 8 audio and 1 midi.
 
All 16 of the TTS-1 default to the Piano sound at the bottom apart from Channel 10 which defaults to Drums
you can select and audition different patches by clicking the note icon at the bottom of the screen




I think OP wants to use a multi-timbral 16 MIDI channel setup for a virtual instrument plugin, rather than a multi-audio output, to get started with Garritan Aria.
2016/12/23 15:59:28
jjvibes
Bristol_Jonesey
Go back to basics with an empty project.
 
Either from the Browser, locate and drag into Track view the TTS-1 synth, or go Insert > Soft Synth and again select TTS-1
 
You should be presented with a dialog box where you check certain items.
Check Midi Source and All Synth Audio Outputs: Mono
 
This will create 9 tracks for you - 8 audio and 1 midi.
 
All 16 of the TTS-1 default to the Piano sound at the bottom apart from Channel 10 which defaults to Drums
you can select and audition different patches by clicking the note icon at the bottom of the screen


ok, i got 8 tracks and 1 midi. so i am going to see if i can switch the piano sound via garritan?
i am assuming if i want more tracks i just repeat the steps?
 
thank you so much!
2016/12/23 16:00:27
jjvibes
abacab
Bristol_Jonesey
Go back to basics with an empty project.
 
Either from the Browser, locate and drag into Track view the TTS-1 synth, or go Insert > Soft Synth and again select TTS-1
 
You should be presented with a dialog box where you check certain items.
Check Midi Source and All Synth Audio Outputs: Mono
 
This will create 9 tracks for you - 8 audio and 1 midi.
 
All 16 of the TTS-1 default to the Piano sound at the bottom apart from Channel 10 which defaults to Drums
you can select and audition different patches by clicking the note icon at the bottom of the screen




I think OP wants to use a multi-timbral 16 MIDI channel setup for a virtual instrument plugin, rather than a multi-audio output, to get started with Garritan Aria.


yes you are right multi timbral 16midi
2016/12/23 16:10:37
abacab
jjvibes
abacab
 
I think OP wants to use a multi-timbral 16 MIDI channel setup for a virtual instrument plugin, rather than a multi-audio output, to get started with Garritan Aria.


yes you are right multi timbral 16midi




OK, then just follow the steps that I outlined earlier. 
 
Insert 16 MIDI tracks into a new project. Then insert one instance of the multi-timbral plugin as a simple instrument track.  You only get one stereo audio output from the instrument plugin this way, but it's easier to keep the focus on learning MIDI first.  Get that sorted out, then you can always grow into multiple audio outputs and busing as your needs expand.  Sonar has got you covered, LOL!
 
Good luck, and all the best to learning
2016/12/23 16:11:44
jjvibes
abacab
jjvibes
ok, thanks when I select output I don't have TTS-1 option.
I have from the drop down: master, preview, metronome. if I click on audio outputs I am only given my audio interface.
I will get this!



If you see audio outputs, you are looking at the wrong type of track.  The audio tracks have the wave icon, the MIDI tracks have a round icon that looks like a plug (5-pin MIDI DIN connector). The audio tracks have the drop down: master, preview, metronome, etc.
 
The instrument plugin itself will have an audio output default to the Master bus, but don't worry about that yet.  It should take care of itself ...
 
So ...
 
1. Insert a MIDI track. 
Insert > MIDI Track.  MIDI tracks don't have audio outputs.  When you insert a standalone MIDI track (not an audio track, or instrument track) you won't see any instruments in the output selector until you add one.
 
2. Insert the Cakewalk TTS-1 GM synth (or any instrument) as an instrument track. It will create it's own audio output automatically.
Insert > Soft Synth > [your choice]
Once you do this, you can select it as a MIDI output option from the MIDI track you added in step #1.
 
Any instruments that have been inserted into your project will show up as outputs for your MIDI track.  You need this track to route your controller, or your MIDI pattern clips, to trigger the chosen sound in your instrument.
 
3. Set up as many of the MIDI tracks as you have active instrument slots in your plugin (TTS-1). 
 
Each MIDI track can route to only one instrument and only one MIDI channel, 1-16 on that instrument.  That is why you will probably need to use more than one MIDI track to work with your Garritan plugin.  Each slot in that will require its own MIDI track.  So practice with the TTS-1 until you get the hang of it, because we all have it and can answer your questions about it.
 
You will need each MIDI track to fire a separate instrument in the plugin (TTS-1), based on the assigned MIDI channel for that MIDI track.  You can put a MIDI pattern in each MIDI track, or select a MIDI track and send MIDI data (note on, note off, etc.) from your keyboard controller via that track's MIDI channel.  The MIDI tracks are what send MIDI data to the instrument to play it.


ok, thank you. i am going to re read this and give it a shot!
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