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2011/09/02 13:40:35
UCG Musician
I just got a Korg Kronos 88 and, of all things, I can't find an instrument definition file (.ins) on any of the disks the manufacturer provides.  This thing has zillions of sounds in it.  Can I define the instrument and load all its info without an INS file?  Doing it manually is not feasible.
2011/09/02 13:44:12
FastBikerBoy
You can use it but the INS file allows you to see the patch names in the patch drop down box. Without that it'll just appear as numbers. Is there nothing close that has an ins file you can then edit to save time?
2011/09/02 14:01:16
UCG Musician
Possibly.  The instrument came with three disks and four owner's manuals.  The manuals are also in PDF format and I might be able to do some copy and paste.  Isn't the INS file just a text file?
2011/09/02 14:25:59
FastBikerBoy
Yes I believe it can be edited in a text editor but I'm not sure of the layout protocol. Should be easy enough to have a look at an existing definition and work out what needs to be where.

I've always done my editing via the ins file definition panel within Sonar which is easy enough.

Look on the bright side, you've only got to do it once.
2011/09/02 14:42:59
Wookiee
2011/09/02 14:45:46
kelsoz
And when you are done you can write a paper "Architecture of INS Files with Examples" that we would all enjoy.

If you are a programmer, how about writing an "INS File Blizzard" that would examine your synth and construct the INS file.  Panu, Ben????
2011/09/02 18:40:26
dlbachtell
Got my Kronos 73 several weeks ago and created an INS file for the 14 program banks using the PDF voice name list and MS Word. It's a little time consuming, but as the previous poster commented, you only have to do it once. BTW, the old Insmaker utility which worked with the Tritons will not work with the Kronos. There is no INS file for Sonar supplied with the Kronos.
2011/09/11 21:14:17
UCG Musician
dlbachtell,
When you're back on-line, please advise if you would be willing to send me what you created!
Thanks,
UCG Musician
2011/09/11 22:19:41
Fog
FBB depends on how many sounds / banks it is.. it can be a nightmare if it's loads 1000+ (e.g. a sound module) . [new paragraph] If you can ask korg to to provide you with the patch list (with bank numbers) as text, then it would speed up things. It's PAGES of patches, I just looked
2011/09/12 01:38:26
FastBikerBoy
Fog


FBB depends on how many sounds / banks it is.. it can be a nightmare if it's loads 1000+ (e.g. a sound module) . [new paragraph] If you can ask korg to to provide you with the patch list (with bank numbers) as text, then it would speed up things. It's PAGES of patches, I just looked


Yeah I know and I'm guessing it will be a 1000+. Coincidentally I've just been updating the Sonic Cell INS file which doesn't already contain performance patches and I did that using a text editor. A PDF version of the manual and cut 'n' paste will save lots of time and typing here, that's how I did it. The protocol for the file is easy enough to work out from an existing INS file.
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