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2016/12/26 20:23:24
dlayna
Previously, I recorded vocals with reverb using an external unit which was set up for me. When I updated to Platinum I got rid of the unit...very outdated.  I purchased the Dell XPS 8900 computer when I upgraded to Platinum.
 
I want to hear reverb and/or delay while recording without tracking the effects. I've searched everywhere and can't find a video tutorial that shows you how to set up.
 
If you've set up effects for this purpose can someone PLEASE provide instructions or send me a video link on how to do this, that is if one exists.
 
I'm working with 3 different producers and neither of them use Sonar, so they can't help me.  I need to get these songs recorded asap and reverb/delay aid in my performance :) 
 
D
2016/12/26 20:47:25
dannyjmusic
Do you have reverb on the interface that you are using? If you do, you can listen to your mic with effects before it gets to the computer. 
2016/12/26 20:49:01
DeeringAmps
Send your vocal track to an aux track or buss and insert a reverb.

I used the Sonitus included with SONAR, its light on the CPU.
That's track 1 on the left.
Adjust the send to "sweeten" to taste.
Make sure the "blue" buttons are on.
That makes them "live" when recording.
Hope this helps
 
T
2016/12/26 21:49:57
brundlefly
The first two answers are the opposite of what you want. By default FX are applied to the output of a track so the input is always recorded dry unless you go out of your way to use a workaround like one of the above to capture the FX.
 
If you're capturing FX without intending to, I would guess you're using the onboard sound system to record, and the input in the onboard sound's mixer app is set to 'What U Hear' or 'Stereo Mix', which means it's recording from the sound systems output with the FX applied. In that case, you need to choose Mic or Line In as the input.
2016/12/26 22:11:15
RSMCGUITAR
Brundlefly is right. The first two suggestions don't make any sense.
2016/12/26 22:58:38
dlayna
Hi, thanks for responding so quickly.
 
I set up the bus with the reverb and adjusted the "Level", however by leaving the input echo on, the reverb sounded very tinny and doubled. 
 
I even adjusted the Level to the lowest and it still sounds tinny and doubled, which leads me to believe the input echo has it's own effect or dynamics.  It works fine if I'm playing back the recording, but not when I'm recording.
 
I've always used the effects this way for playback.  What to do now???
 
It's driving me nuts!!! 
2016/12/26 23:01:52
RSMCGUITAR
Maybe I'm missing something here but.... I would just add a track, insert a reverb on the track, record and then delete the reverb. Your track will be dry.
2016/12/26 23:25:52
dlayna
Hi, thanks for the quick response :)
 
I do want the end result to be a dry vocal so I can add effects on the output.  I just want to hear reverb while recording, which is how it was set up with external reverb unit I had.  
 
I did try adding a bus with reverb and sending to VOX track, but by leaving the input echo on it came across my mic/headphones very tinny sounding and doubled even with the level at it's lowest.  I could hear the effect, but with the double effect...not pretty. When I turned off the input echo the Sonitus Reverb was not present.  There was some latency issues too with what I was recording and hearing in my headphones during recording.
 
The latency is driving me crazy!
 
I'm using the Great River Mic-Pre and Presonus Audiobox USB for the mic.  
 
brundlefly
 
If you're capturing FX without intending to, I would guess you're using the onboard sound system to record, and the input in the onboard sound's mixer app is set to 'What U Hear' or 'Stereo Mix', which means it's recording from the sound systems output with the FX applied. In that case, you need to choose Mic or Line In as the input.





2016/12/26 23:47:46
Razorwit
Hi dlayna,

If I'm understanding you correctly you'd like to hear some reverb on a voice while recording but not have that reverb "print" to your track...what some folks call a "comfort reverb". I'm also assuming from your earlier posts about hearing your voice doubled that you're using direct monitoring from your interface and so hearing two copies of your voice when you enable input monitoring. Here's one way to do what I think you're asking:
 
1. Create the audio track that you'll be recording to and select your microphone input.
2. Add a bus with a reverb on it and create a send from the audio track you just created to that bus.
3. Click the button that says "POST" next to the send so it is no longer lit.
4. Pull the fader for the audio track all the way down and enable input monitoring.
 
Now you should be hearing the direct signal from your interface along with the reverb that's getting sent to the bus. Make sure that your reverb effect is set to fully wet or you'll hear some dry signal as well.
Hope that helps.
 
Dean
2016/12/27 00:08:58
dlayna
Hi and thanks for responding :)
 
I tried that as well and I'm still getting the echo from Input Echo button being on while recording :(
 
I'm crying buckets here :)
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