chuckebaby

BuleriaChk

chuckebaby
I use a Mackie MCU that is about 10 years old in Sonar and it works perfect.
Ive used ACT to set up my M Audio Oxygen 49 and had no problem with it.
I don't see the point in your rant.

  
(I'm not about to buy an Oxygen to find out.... you were lucky. And maybe a bit limited in versatility.. )
Did the Oxygen use a Mackie template? 

It's not about luck my friend.
Sonar has a preset in ACT for the Oxygen. it took about a whole 30 seconds to set up.
There is a ton of presets built in to Sonar for use with ACT. Making it simple to set up most Control surfaces.
Would I like to see Sonar expand on Control surface set ups ? Sure.
But I would like a lot of other features too.
 
We all work differently so its tough to categorize Sonars List of "Thing that need improvement".
More often than not, that list is made up of personal needs (what I want / what you want).
Some would argue Staff view improvements should come before Control surface improvements.
See what I mean ? What ever the case, I wish you well.

Now, that's interesting.  Where are these ACT presets (e.g. Oxygen 49)?  If I look under "control surfaces" in Sonar, I don't see anything except older surfaces, and the only one relevant to me is "Mackie" (which usually gets hung up on "connecting", although it does recognize that the interface exists... or doesn't work at all.  My system is working with every other known software package under the sun... Live, Maschine, Fruity Loops.. etc...
 
I went into Program Files/Cakewalk/shared surfaces and saw only the limited ones appearing in the drop-down..

BuleriaChk
Now, that's interesting.  Where are these ACT presets (e.g. Oxygen 49)?

The right place to look for an "ACT preset" is in "ACT plug-in", in this case in "Cakewalk ACT MIDI".

  If I look under "control surfaces" in Sonar,

 you can not find it there. It is "a preset", not a plug-in.

I don't see anything except older surfaces, and the only one relevant to me is "Mackie" (which usually gets hung up on "connecting", although it does recognize that the interface exists... or doesn't work at all.  My system is working with every other known software package under the sun... Live, Maschine, Fruity Loops.. etc...

That I have already explained before.
 

I grabbed an older mcu pro and it worked only sporadically, tried all of the solutions listed here.  After a month, one of the faders, which was string based, broke ... and 1 channel just didnt work anymore, and I sold it at a loss of 375$.  After hours of frustration and a 375$ loss, I gave up for now...

azslow3

BuleriaChk
Now, that's interesting.  Where are these ACT presets (e.g. Oxygen 49)?

The right place to look for an "ACT preset" is in "ACT plug-in", in this case in "Cakewalk ACT MIDI".

 
Ok, I give up.  If it is the factory presets dropdown, none of that works for crap, as mentioned before.  I am not about to program yet another fricken' controller with Midi Learn, which is a really dumb solution to the problem.  IMO, of course, YMMV. 
 
Other wise, where is a different "Cakewalk ACT MIDI" (I searched my computer). 
Is it a factory folder, or something you developed?
How do I get to it? (I have Sonar Platinum open in front of me...)
And once I get it, what do I do with it?
(I'm using Win10 Pro x64)
 
I'm not familiar with your products, although I did look at your site, but didn't find any useful plugins there for my purposes... but I applaud your efforts (Like Stray at NativeKontrol)
 
Why is this so fricken' hard in almost 2017 with Sonar and nobody else?

BuleriaChk

azslow3

BuleriaChk
Now, that's interesting.  Where are these ACT presets (e.g. Oxygen 49)?

The right place to look for an "ACT preset" is in "ACT plug-in", in this case in "Cakewalk ACT MIDI".

Ok, I give up.  Where is "Cakewalk ACT MIDI" (I searched my computer).  Is it a folder, or something you developed?
How do I get to it? (I have Sonar Platinum open in front of me...)

If you open Sonar / Preferences / MIDI / Control Surfaces, you can add "ACT MIDI Controller".
If you open its interface (Sonar / Utilities  / ACT MIDI Controller - 1), you can select some "Presets" (left top corner, as with any plug-in in Sonar).
 
If there is no preset for your device, you can open Sonar Reference Guide (big 2000+ pages PDF), chapter 40. Read it carefully. And with a bit of luck and under 30 minutes time, you can get working basic configuration for (almost) any device.
 
If you want to understand how it works, you can spend a bit more time reading: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,107.0.html
If you do not (want to) understand Russian humor, please start to read AFTER the smile in the first post. Some people have problems with the thread title and the text at the beginning, I do not understand why...
 

I'm not familiar with your products, although I did look at your site, but didn't find any useful plugins there for my purposes... but I applaud your efforts (Like Stray at NativeKontrol)

If you mean www.nativekontrol.com , that really looks interesting. I have not visited it before.
 
My "products" are all free. Potentially useful plug-ins:
1) AZ Controller. For any control surface, using it you theoretically can do anything practically possible in Sonar, but that takes time. On the top of the site you can find a link to YouTube channel and check "Startup preset". The result is as basic as "Cakewalk ACT MIDI", but you can define any number of control (not just 8+8+8) and you can extend/tune that result when you have time and wish. Also you can check "Presets" board, some users have configured devices themselves of with my help. Check what BCR2000 can do, as an example.
2) MIDI Velocity. In case you want modify midi response curve.
3) AZ Lua, if you are Lua programmer and want to do something fancy with MIDI in Sonar, or just want to try one of the example presets for it.
 
All "products" take not a lot of space, uninstall clearly, have no adds and they are not calling home.
 
But for YOU, I have already posted the link in my first reply. That is modified MackieControl.dll (you already know where to place it....), Open Source, produced from CW Open Source. This modified version has one extra configuration parameter. After you set it, your "mackie compatible" devices will start to work (you will no longer see "Connecting...").

BuleriaChk
Ok, I give up.  If it is the factory presets dropdown, none of that works for crap, as mentioned before.  I am not about to program yet another fricken' controller with Midi Learn, which is a really dumb solution to the problem.  IMO, of course, YMMV. 

MIDI Learning controls in some plug-in is not "programming", it takes just several minutes (unlike programming).
 
If you describe "the problem" in more details, may be I can give move precise answer. If that is still making "mackie mode" work with Sonar, I have already answered. If you want make "super Sonar controller" out of your Mashine, that is also possible. But that will be your TIME investment (much smaller then my, you will just have to think what you want and test either I have managed to implement that correctly). But there are some limits what a controller can do with Sonar, and I can not move them.

I have an FW-1884 that I'm selling for ***** on fleabay.  It works flawlessly in Windows 10 and SPLAT.  It has HUI, Mackie and native emulations.  I think the rules say I can't put the price.

one or two?

chuckebaby
 
It's not about luck my friend.
Sonar has a preset in ACT for the Oxygen. it took about a whole 30 seconds to set up.
There is a ton of presets built in to Sonar for use with ACT. Making it simple to set up most Control surfaces.
Would I like to see Sonar expand on Control surface set ups ? Sure.
But I would like a lot of other features too.

Hey chuck, thanks!  It was lucky for me that I read this ...
 
I have an old M-Audio Axiom 49 1st gen, that I could never get set up correctly with ACT in Sonar.  But on a whim I just tried your Oxygen 49 selection.
 
Guess what? The Axiom 49 transport controls and faders are now correctly mapped!  I had tried every Axiom choice in the list and it was always hit or miss.  So I ended up getting a Roland A300-PRO.  But I still like the Axiom keys.
 
I'm not going to question why this works, but I'm digging it now
 
 

abacab
I have an old M-Audio Axiom 49 1st gen, that I could never get set up correctly with ACT in Sonar.  But on a whim I just tried your Oxygen 49 selection.
 
Guess what? The Axiom 49 transport controls and faders are now correctly mapped!  I had tried every Axiom choice in the list and it was always hit or miss.  So I ended up getting a Roland A300-PRO.  But I still like the Axiom keys.

If someone, ever is able to explain me why 25 mouse click (exactly 25!) can be a "brick wall" for people which are working with DAWs, I will be happy...