[Update] - The shoe maker's elves must be dabbling in DAWs because everything seems to be working just fine now. No magic steps required before opening and running a project. No crashes or VST Scan hangs. The two changes on this system:
1. Installed 2016.12 Sonar update (since rolling back to previous versions or anything else did not solve the problem.)
2. Updated Win10 (Pro) OS Build to 10586.713
- Note: I have -not- installed the latest versions noted in the Early Access sticky on CA2A and Z3TA+2. It's running fine with the previous versions which appears to be the case for most users.
(executive summary to save reading all the comments)
[Original problem] - Several CW VSTs would crash a project on load or on insertion into an FX bin. VST Scan would hang when trying to scan the problem VSTs. VST functionality could be restored by deleting all keys in the registry and reinstalling them but this approach only worked as long as the PC was not restarted. Once the PC was restarted, the problem reappeared.
- Note: Rolling back to a previous version of Sonar did -not- solve the problem and per other users a System Restore did not solve the problem.
- Note: No issue noted with any other VSTs.
[Root cause] - The most useful comments came from the CW Dev team and attributed it to a "timing issue" with a few CW VSTs which was exposed after a Win10 update in Nov.
[Workaround] - Run the MS Procmon tool before loading a project or inserting one of the problem VSTs as this apparntely adding a slight delay to the problem threads to keep them running. Other users noted that only a Sonar Start/Close and Start again was sufficient to load and run a project -on their systems-.
[Solution ?] - CW dev team seems to have a good understanding of the issue and per the latest sticky we are expecting updated versions of the problem VSTs.
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Because I use it on just about every project. The original PC version has been in use for quite some time, was updated via the latest version in CCC when released. Has been fine until today. Only action was to install the 2016.11 update. The issue appears to be with a core Cakewalk setting as the Cakewalk VST Scan seems to be stumbling on other Cakewalk VSTs.
> Installed 2016.11 update
- let CCC install to default locations
- including the two FX updates
> Was able to work on the current project at the time
> Closed Sonar, powered down PC
> Reopened project =
Crash "SONARPLT.exe has stopped working"
> Opened another project in Safe Mode
- The current project was fairly large, tried a smaller one.
- CA2A will
crash it every time. All else seems to be OK
> Reset / Rescanned VST plugins (via Preferences | VST Settings)
Thought maybe the FX updates had something to do with it.
- VST Scan throwing "Runtime Error!" dialogs when scanning
- LP-64_Multiband_64
- LP-64_EQ_64
- VST Scan
crashes "Cakewalk VST Scan has stopped working" when scanning
- CA2A Leveling Amplifier
> Rolled back to 2016.10
- SAME issues !!?? Had been working just fine. Probably not the update, but what?
> Reinstalled Sonar Pt 2016.11, CA2A, Engineering FX via CCC
> Reset, Rescanned
. Rescan Failed Plug-ins = checked
. Rescan Existing Plug-ins = checked
- The VST scan seemed to be "struggling" to get thru the inventory. By this I mean it would display a dll and appear to get stuck instead of zipping through them.
> Unchecked "Rescan Existing Plug-ins", rescanned
- Noting the scan would still appear to hang on various Cakewalk dlls (i.e Rapture Session, RMix, Z3ta+2, etc.)
. I would close the scan status window and hit Scan again
. It would eventually appear to complete the scan, noting "7 new" plugins
> Tried opening the small project.
Crash. Safe mode still shows CA2A to be the culprit
> Deleted aud.ini. rebooted, tried opening the small project.
Crash. Safe mode still shows CA2A to be the culprit
> Deleted CA2A in the MS Control Panel | Programs & Features
Eliminated both the original install and the latest update.
> Reinstalled CA2A via CCC
> Tried opening the small project again.
Crash. Safe mode still shows CA2A to be the culprit
> Tried another Reset/Rescan
- Opened a project in Safe Mode without loading CA2A. All working.
- Added an instance of CA2A to the PC of a track. All working.
- Saved and closed project.
- Tried to reopen the same project.
Crash.
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I have to think some core setting/dir must be corrupted. It's not like these are dodgy 3rd party plug-ins. The only action other than running Sonar as usual was the 2016.11 update and that worked for at least one session.
Any expert insight would be appreciated. In the meantime I'll be digging deeper.
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Win10 x64, latest updates, Asus X99A, i7-5820, 32MB, Radeon HD 5450, Roland QC4