2018/12/15 15:05:52
bitflipper
Well, duh.
 
But I liked this scientific approach in analyzing the repetitiveness of pop lyrics. As he says "I proved what we already knew".
 
Somewhat surprising, though, was his well-reasoned argument that repetitiveness isn't a bad thing. We all know that a certain amount of repetitiveness is necessary in order to hook the listener, but I've always looked at repeated lyrics as laziness. Something I do when I can only come up with two good verses but need three.
 
This guy juxtaposes Britney Spears with Shakespeare. Um, OK. But a valid point is made in the process.
 

2018/12/16 22:56:43
ØSkald
This was good.
Well I don’t think that Music is "better" now, but it is more diverse in my mind. Top 10 is much more receptive, but you have so much more music than that.
2018/12/17 03:33:01
bjornpdx
Yeah, I liked his scientific approach too. Interesting and humorous graph showing how repetitive lyrics can be compressed (zip file eg) much more than less repetitive ones.
2018/12/17 16:22:49
TheMaartian
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
2018/12/18 14:00:48
Starise
I liked his presentation, however I'm not one to favor too much repetition. "Too much" is likely subjective between individuals. The compression argument makes a good point, but how many artists are making their music based on
how compressible it is? We have smart phones with many GB of storage and fast streaming connections. Compression is a non issue in my thinking.
I look for substance in music. I don't often find it nowadays.
 
2018/12/18 14:58:28
Voda La Void
Seems to me he traded one assumption for another.  He used popularity and consumption as the arbiter of repetition as good.  
 
I don't think that's the conclusion to draw from consumption choices.  McDonald's sells more burgers than anybody here in the US, and yet practically no one would say they make better burgers than anybody else.  Rather when an individual has to choose between value and personal time, they choose McDonald's over others.  The time to retrieve and the money spent is much lower at McDonald's than going to a higher quality burger joint that will likely cost more and take more time to make.  
 
Pop music provides the preferred value and time investment over quality music.  You can get a pop tune the first time you hear it.  You get immediate pay off and immediate gratification - melodies and beats are instantly processed and understood.  The time investment in quality music means it will likely take longer to get that same auditory gratification from beats and melodies that are more rich, intricate and unique, take longer to understand and familiarize.   
 
So, yes repetition is good in the way that McDonald's is good - sometimes you need a cheap burger really fast.  And maybe that's the preference the majority of the time with the majority of consumers.  But that doesn't mean those same consumers would turn around and say that McDonald's makes the best.  Pop music is fast food music, to me.  And it's good and bad for mostly the same reasons.  
2018/12/21 04:02:05
kennywtelejazz
I'm sorry I tried my best to get onto the guys talk .
Then I said to myself why am I listening to this guy in the first place ?
 
After that ,  I'm in a caustic mood and I will spare you the rant ...
 
IMHO , This tune uses repetition in remarkable ways .
It features Simple Chords , Simple  Lyrics combined with a killer production and a arrangement in song story telling too simply die for.
 

 
Kenny
2018/12/21 21:36:38
Wayfarer
The hardest aspect of art to comprehend is why sometimes simple can be magnificent and other times simple is just pedestrian.
2018/12/21 22:28:18
paulo
Wayfarer
The hardest aspect of art to comprehend is why sometimes simple can be magnificent and other times simple is just pedestrian.





2018/12/22 00:49:51
Wayfarer
paulo
Wayfarer
The hardest aspect of art to comprehend is why sometimes simple can be magnificent and other times simple is just pedestrian.







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