As far as I can tell the biggest question that still needs to be answered is:
 
How long will the offer last?
 
Sorry if I have missed it.
 
I appreciate that this offer won't be there forever just want to have some idea of how quickly I need to make a decision if I want Cubase as my Sonar replacement.

Greg Ondo

tonydude
My gut reaction is Cubase, partly because it is so well established and part of Yamaha.
 
However lack of ARA support is a deal breaker. I could not have finished my recent album without it.
 
Does Cubase 9.5 support ARA and if not, will it definitely be in the next version?
Is it possible to use 32bit and 64bit plugin's in the same instance of Cubase? 
 
~ Tony

Cubase does offer ARA support but has a lot of functionality built in such as the VAri Audio editor for pitch correction.
 
Cubase natively only supports 64 bit plug-ins but with a 3rd party bridging solution like j-bridge people can run 32 bit plug-ins as well.
 
All the best,
 
Greg

Greg,
 
I currently have Cubase Pro 9.5.  Please show me ARA support for Melodyne and Vocalign, etc.  I have yet to see it work.
 
Best,
 
Reginald

Thanks, but there is a reason I don't use Cubase software, it's not Sonar. But then again, if Cubase/Steinburg were to offer theme's that work like Sonar/Similar I would seriously consider it. I have too much invested in what I already got, and what I already got lately has been working flawlessly and handles all my needs. Although an upgrade to Sonar Platinum would be nice, it's not a necessity. 
 
The interface for Cubase is what I can't stand, it's just the same old same old, no development, for years apparently. 
 
Although thank you for the information and offer. I don't blame any company trying to make money for their fold at this point, that's what businesses do. 
 
 

Well after a whole night the download finally finished. But once again with errors when installing. Something in the VST collection
And for those people who keep asking about the download.. don't you use Google? Just google the stupid thing and it's there. They certainly don't seem to have it on the product pages so I can see why your asking. 
 
Anyhow it loaded up just fine but with a warning about Halion, and sure enough Halion doesn't work. But a lot of my Sonar VST's do. Not much changed since my 5LE. So pretty fast for me to get things set up. 
Opened a midi file and messed around, very different for sure so might have to actually read the manual. 
 
 
 

kson

Greg Ondo
Cubase does offer ARA support but has a lot of functionality built in such as the VAri Audio editor for pitch correction.

I currently have Cubase Pro 9.5.  Please show me ARA support for Melodyne and Vocalign, etc.  I have yet to see it work.

I believe that was a typo.  I believe Mr. Ondo intended to say they do NOT support ARA.  And I wouldn't hold my breath.  Steinberg has always had a attitude about standards.  The only standards they like are the ones they can dictate.
 
It sucks because ARA is really brilliant, especially as it integrates Melodyne in SONAR and StudioOne.  I guess there are some work-arounds if you want to use Melodyne in Cubase, but they aren't very pleasant when we have seen how nice the ARA thing can be.  Cubase pushes their own software for time and pitch alignment.  That is deeply integrated, but it is no Melodyne -- not even close.
 
On the other hand, the chord support in Cubase is very nice, and quite powerful.  There is no "perfect DAW" when moving from SONAR.  They all present their trade-offs.  I'd like to think this community might develop a simple one-page matrix that shows the key things each comparable product has or lacks.  That would make it easier for each person to decide what is best for the kind of work they do.

Q1) Is it safe to assume that a project started in Elements will open in Pro?
Q2) Cubase has abandoned x86 altogether?
(My office rig remains x86, but if there is an x86 version of Elements...)
 
T

Thank you.  I bought the competitive upgrade from Sweetwater and the key from Guitar Center.  But I assume I must enter a Sonar serial number somewhere?  Or do I sent in a form and have to wait?

Anyone know?

THANKS,
AB
 
 

Martin Hines
$255 -- Steinberg Cubase Pro 9.5 -- Competitive Crossgrade
(Steinberg lowered the price by $70 due to the Cakewalk news)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CubaseP95CG
 

Well no luck so far in Australia, Sweetwater can't supply it and all the local shops are $800 for a brand new boxed Pro Version 9.  I'll contact them during the week and see if there's any other option.
 
No way I can justify that, I'l try Reaper since the notation is a must have, or otherwise the Rewire/similar link between Studio One and Notion.
 

If you go back through this thread you'll find this info, but I believe it involves a screenshot of your Sonar product and serial numbers. You e mail to Steinberg and wait a few hour for answer. 
 
Well just spent a frustration hour trying to make a midi file into something. Halicion seems to load automatically, figured that out, but no where in documentation is a subject for "how to remove a VST instrument". I guess I'll have to use Google. Anyhow just inserting and setting up VST's is a huge pain so far I've gotten no where. And there is no smart tool. Who said Cubase was advanced in midi editing? It's like Sonar 8.5 as far as I can tell. 
So it's a no sale for me. Staying with Sonar until it dies, maybe by then one of these DAWs will catch up to Sonar. 
 

Greg Ondo
My name is Greg Ondo and I have represented Steinberg products for over 25 years in the United States.  We were shocked to hear of Gibson's decision to cease development of the Cakewalk brand and products.
 
We know that there are many currently available alternatives to compose and create music on your Windows computer.  Steinberg has a long history of innovation spanning more than 33 years including the VST and ASIO standards.  Steinberg offers a broad portfolio of music and audio software solutions including Cubase, Nuendo, WaveLab, Dorico, HALion and Groove Agent.
 
We wanted to invite you to attend an interactive google hangout where you can ask specific questions on how to translate your workflows in a Cubase environment.  You can send questions on what a feature is called in Cubase, where to locate and execute a function or how to do a specific type of edit.  There may be features not available currently in Cubase and there will probably many that are similar but have different names
 
There are promotions on crossgrades available to transition into Cubase with discounts starting November 24th.  If you are interested in a streamlined project migration process let us know if that would be of use to you  Steinberg and our parent company Yamaha Corporation are focussed and dedicated to providing solutions for musicians and audio professionals at every level.
 
If you are interested in attending the google hangout you can watch it live or offline and find info about it at  at 12 PM US Eastern time November 28th.  You can also submit questions in advance to .  We will go through the submitted questions and do multiple hangouts or create a series if necessary.   
 
All the best,
 
Greg
 
 
Host Edit :----------------------------
 
In the interest of fairness, I've been talking to Rick Naqvi, VP of sales at PreSonus.  They will be announcing a special offer for Sonar users on Tuesday.
 
Karyn
 

Great!! I think it would be very nice if Steinberg makes an (attractive !)  crossgrade offer aimed to us Sonar orphans..thanks Greg.