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  • message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg (p.43)
2017/11/30 05:38:48
mudgel
Installation of Cubase Pro 9.5 went without a hitch this time but I can’t get any further until I have my eLicencer.
2017/11/30 09:31:16
Frank-US
rmfegley
He said it displays whatever is selected in the track view, which would mean you have to switch views to select different tracks to edit? Yeesh, I hope I missed something. 



Not 100% sure if I have understood your problem. If you have the piano roll in the lower zone, there is no switch of view. It stays there and reflects the part/parts you want to edit.
2017/11/30 09:34:57
Frank-US
cparmerlee
bwbalint
It will be good to learn things in a new program from a slightly different angle.



Likewise, the routing on SONAR is far more elegant.  With Cubase, if you want to have a reverb bus, you create an "effects track" and send to it.  But as far as I can tell, you can put only that one effect on each effects track -- again, just like most digital boards.  With SONAR, you send to a bus, and the bus can have any combination of effects and processing you desire.

That is similar in Cubase. The FX-Bus (track) can host several FX.
2017/11/30 09:59:21
Rob from Sydney
Thanks Mudgel - well done and good luck!
 
I got two emails from a sales engineer at Sweetwater (same person both times); No.1:
We are so sorry for the delay in delivering your software... While most software orders process immediately, something about your order did not verify correctly. This can usually be resolved quickly during business hours. We have assigned someone to investigate and personally see your order through the system. We'll contact you as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience!
Your friends at Sweetwater.
 
No.2:
Robert, thank you for your order but unfortunately that is a software that we'd only be able to sell in the United States.

 
Meanwhile I'm chasing up some local retailers who will see what they can find from Yamaha Australia, otherwise ask directly myself to them.
 
 
2017/11/30 10:58:32
JClosed
Frank-US
rmfegley
He said it displays whatever is selected in the track view, which would mean you have to switch views to select different tracks to edit? Yeesh, I hope I missed something. 



Not 100% sure if I have understood your problem. If you have the piano roll in the lower zone, there is no switch of view. It stays there and reflects the part/parts you want to edit.




Also - If you have several tracks selected (using dragging or select with Ctrl hold down), and go to the full piano roll view, you see all notes in those tracks by the color of the tracks. You can edit all notes at the same time, or make a selection (in fact a track selection) using an roll-down menu and edit the selected track without moving something in another track by mistake. So no need to switch between piano roll and track view.
2017/11/30 11:11:56
jerrydf
You can fly the PRV out to a separate window on another screen; same for the mixer.  
2017/11/30 11:16:24
JClosed
35mm
No, sound, latency and everything else is fine. It's just the GUI/interface that is running really slow on my machine. Like, mouse click on a tab or drop-down option, or try to resize a track and it updates really slow. I am also noticing that sliding a fader is slow and jerky, and the meters are jerky too. Some VSTs GUIs are also affected the same way when running in Cubase, but not in Sonar - I tried AAS Ultra Analog and the midi light and output meter was slow and laggy. It must be something on my system, but I don't know what. Like I said, all my other software works fine. I may have to try a reinstall. At the moment it's reminiscent of browsing a media-intensive web page with the old 56K dial-up modem! Or, very much like when the CPU is maxed out and the refresh rate drops right down. However, the CPU is not maxed out at all.
 
Another issue I am having is that I posted about this problem in the Cubase forum. As it was my first post it has to be moderated before it gets approved. I posted it about 10 hours ago and it still hasn't been approved :(




Well - I do not see that kind of problems on my system. But as I said, I have an old "professional" Nvidia Quadro card, with older drivers that I have locked to avoid updates (the newer Nvidia Quadro drivers do not work well with older hardware). As your card works fine with all your other software, there must be something weird going on. Do you use Geforce Experience? That is a terrible piece of software that I have removed from all my systems, because it slows down everything. The Nvidia Shield drivers are also known to slow down systems (especially games can lag, so I think other programs too). You could try to upgrade your card. You do not need a powerful card, so a cheap but newer Nvidia card will do. Other than that, I really have no idea.
 
I hope you get access to the Cubase forums fast. I am a regular visitor there (and use the same username as I use here).
2017/11/30 11:28:07
teclark7
Rob from Sydney:
 
I'm in Australia too and I had problems at first with Sweetwater but mudgel put me on the straight path. Installing and activating now. Will PM you.
2017/11/30 15:39:05
cparmerlee
Frank-US
cparmerlee
bwbalint
It will be good to learn things in a new program from a slightly different angle.



Likewise, the routing on SONAR is far more elegant.  With Cubase, if you want to have a reverb bus, you create an "effects track" and send to it.  But as far as I can tell, you can put only that one effect on each effects track -- again, just like most digital boards.  With SONAR, you send to a bus, and the bus can have any combination of effects and processing you desire.

That is similar in Cubase. The FX-Bus (track) can host several FX.


OK thanks.  I spent a few hours with Cubase last night and found it pretty easy to work in.  As mentioned above, it feels more like a portable digital board (StudioLive or X32) to me than SONAR, which seems more "orthogonal" if that makes any sense.  I can get similar results and once up the learning curve, I think the productivity will be about the same.
 
From what I have seen so far, SONAR is way ahead in visual feedback, especially with its included plug-ins.  Other than the main meter, there is almost no visual feedback anywhere in Cubase, not even in the EQ.  That's OK because I will probably use 3rd party plugs in most cases anyway.  But I do like seeing the compressor work, and seeing the frequency spectrum in the EQ module, etc.
2017/11/30 16:31:30
JClosed
cparmerlee
Frank-US
cparmerlee
bwbalint
It will be good to learn things in a new program from a slightly different angle.



Likewise, the routing on SONAR is far more elegant.  With Cubase, if you want to have a reverb bus, you create an "effects track" and send to it.  But as far as I can tell, you can put only that one effect on each effects track -- again, just like most digital boards.  With SONAR, you send to a bus, and the bus can have any combination of effects and processing you desire.

That is similar in Cubase. The FX-Bus (track) can host several FX.


OK thanks.  I spent a few hours with Cubase last night and found it pretty easy to work in.  As mentioned above, it feels more like a portable digital board (StudioLive or X32) to me than SONAR, which seems more "orthogonal" if that makes any sense.  I can get similar results and once up the learning curve, I think the productivity will be about the same.
 
From what I have seen so far, SONAR is way ahead in visual feedback, especially with its included plug-ins.  Other than the main meter, there is almost no visual feedback anywhere in Cubase, not even in the EQ.  That's OK because I will probably use 3rd party plugs in most cases anyway.  But I do like seeing the compressor work, and seeing the frequency spectrum in the EQ module, etc.


The standard equalizer in the channel strip gives visual feedback. Just select an audio track and click on "Equalizers" in the inspector to get e small visual presentation. To get a bigger presentation, click on the "e" in the inspector and the channel settings window opens. There you can select the "Equalizer" tab to bring up a more detailed view.
 
On the insert side. Cubase Pro is shipped with the full version of Voxengo CurveEQ. This is really a great plugin that gives good graphical EQ feedback can be enlarged as big as you want (It has far more functions, but that is something you have to find out for yourself).
 
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