Hey, that's great!
I didn't read your last post while I wrote mine.
 
Really good to hear!
 
Best,
Klaus
 
 

It is nevertheless strange.
When I split clip 1 at the right end - and the following next clip 2 at the left beginning, there should never be a microclip between this two clips. Even if they overlap.
I know now what I must make in order to prevent this. But this is a program error.
 
The remaining microclip on the right side of the clip belongs still to the splitted and deleted clip snd audiofile - not to the following clip on the second layer. In my test project there is only "one" audiofile.
The more I think about it, the problem is not solved.

I think the microclip is not a result from splitting but from the orginal overlapping recording (as you already mentioned).
Hence it doesn't matter where you split the clip.
 
Try not recording into Take Lanes:
Uncheck "Create New Lanes on Overlap" and check "Store Takes in Separate Tracks".
 
 

Hmm, you're right, the remaining clip belongs to the first recording, so it's not an overlap between two recordings.
 
Phew, I'm a bit lost here...sorry.
 
 

Thank you.
I have never seen this option before. I have unchecked "Create New Lanes on Overlap".
But I'm wondering.
Deleting a clip should delete all take lanes !! This is probably the fault !! Deleting a clip manually or by splitting has to delete all take lanes from the clip !!
 

Klaus
Try not recording into Take Lanes:
Uncheck "Create New Lanes on Overlap" and check "Store Takes in Separate Tracks".

Please let us know what happens when you try this. If the problem still occurs, then at least we can exclude Take Lanes as being part of the issue.

THambrecht
 
Deleting a clip should delete all take lanes !! This is probably the fault !! Deleting a clip manually or by splitting has to delete all take lanes from the clip !!

I understand what you mean but that would defeat the purpose of Take Lanes, I think.
 

It is now very clear.
After recording clip 1, and after that recording clip 2, the first clip 1 is automatically splitted at its right end and muted. Why the clips are overlapping is unclear. Stop and record should never result in overlapping clips. That means after "stop" the project jumps back 0,01 seconds.
 
So it remains a nearly unvisible and muted microclip from the last record - at this point the new record begins.
The picture shows 0,01 seconds:
You can not see it in this picture, but with marker "gn" ends the first record and the second record begins.
The overlapping clip 1 is then cut into a main clip and a muted microclip.
So I do not need to wonder when normalizing an audioclip and applying effects to an audioclip comes to corrupted audiodata. Because the main clip references in addition to an unvisible microclip that is muted. Operations to this main clip overwhelm Sonar and it comes to corrupt audiodata.
 
So the cause is found but the problem is not solved.
 
I know in my case how I now prevent this. The silly question remains - how to find this microclips and prevent thereby corrupt audiodata?
 

 
 

Thank you for the detailed information! Because of that I knew where to look, and I can confirm - when you stop and then start and comping is selected, sometimes the Now time backs up slightly when you stop, or recording continues a bit afterward (I'm not sure which, but the result is the same). I also noticed that sometimes, it leaves a very small gap.
 
Fortunately there are four solutions, depending on how you want the clips to end up.
 

• If you want a clip to go in a new take lane every time you start and stop, and have no overlap, choose Overwrite and check Create New Lanes on Overlap.
• If you want clips to go in the same take lane every time you start and stop, and have no overlap, choose Overwrite and uncheck Create New Lanes on Overlap.
• If you want a clip to go in a new take lane every time you start and stop, and you want a slight overlap but don't want the overlapping part to be split, choose Sound on Sound and check Create New Lanes on Overlap.
• If you want clips to alternate between two take lanes every time you start and stop, and want a slight overlap but don't want the overlapping part to be split, choose Sound on Sound and uncheck Create New Lanes on Overlap.

 
One of these should cover what you need. I know who worked on the comping, and since the behavior you describe is now quantified and reproducible, I'll pass this information along. (I wonder if the slight overlap is on purpose to guarantee that a new take lane will be created when comping...I don't know, but the comping person will know.)
 
I hope you find this "canned response" helpful  
 
Thank you for your diligence in finding a way to reproduce!

THambrecht
Since a few months, I watch a mysterious behavior after splitting audioclips.
I mark the whole clip and split it at a certain point.
In preferences I set: Selection after single split: "left portion".
So the left portion should be complete deleted - but every twentieth time a tiny bit of the audioclip remains at the left side. This tiny bit is so short (0,01 seconds), that is almost unvisible. 
I have been working for about 20 years with Sonar, earn my daily money with it,but I have only experienced that behavior since a few months.
This has effect to the clip when editing the visible main piece. Because Sonar holds the whole audiodata, even after "apply trimming" to the main piece, and references to the unvisible tiny bit. I also watch sometimes corrupt audiodata when normalising or applying an effect to an audioclip. I'm not surprised if problems occur by this behavior.
 

 
Thanks for the report, we'll look into it and work to resolve it in a future update.
 
Keith