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  • My Midi drumming is too hard
2016/12/14 08:36:00
dwardzala
I have a MPD18 16 pad midi controller that I'd like to use for creating midi drum tracks.  However, when I am using it, I hit the pads fairly hard and all the note velocities end up at 127.  I looked in the MPD18 manual and didn't find a way to reduce the sensitivity of the pads so that when I hit them there is some variability in velocities.  I know it will send lower velocities because if I tap the pads lightly, I get lower ones (but I can't keep time when I tap lightly.)  Anybody know how I might do that?
 
I know I can edit velocities in Sonar, but I would rather "get it right at the source" so to speak.
2016/12/14 09:38:45
scottfa
A look at the quick setup guide reveals a "Full Level" option which will send a 127 out no matter how hard or soft you hit the pads. I can't get into the editor software, but that is where I would look. Usually there is a velocity curve option to tailor the responses, however this is a pretty inexpensive box do maybe you are expecting more than it can give.
2016/12/14 09:42:00
dwardzala
Thanks, I know about that button and that's not what's going on.  I can play softly and get lower velocities.  I may be expecting too much from this controller but I thought I'd ask before trying to change my play style (or just using my Midi keyboard.)
2016/12/14 09:51:58
scottfa
A quick Google check reveals that there is indeed no velocity curve options. However, I did find a forum post about changing the velocity. Involves modding the pads I think. Anyway here is the link:
https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=977619
2016/12/14 10:02:51
dwardzala
Thanks for that link.  It seems like it solves the opposite problem I have.  I tap hard enough to get a midi event.  In fact I tap so hard that I get a midi event with a velocity of 127.  Holding back on my tapping force allows me to get a lower velocity midi event, but I struggle to get good rhythms when trying not to hit as hard.
 
I may still try to the mod to see if it makes any difference.  If I end up breaking the unit, its not that big a loss.  I may also see if I can swap out a different pad material, too.
2016/12/14 11:21:59
Hatstand
Without being able to change velocity curves there is probably not a lot of options other than practice, practice, practice.
I was bemoaning my "lack of articulation" with pads and thought it was the pads fault until someone who is a drummer made me look foolish by making a really expressive beat in minutes.
I am now a lot better at it but for three levels of soft medium and hard which is enough most of the time, anything special I just edit velocities in the software
2016/12/14 11:36:54
BobF
I have the opposite problem with my MPD26.
 
The 26 has threshold and sensitivity settings for pads.  Are you sure the 18 doesn't?
2016/12/14 12:04:59
scottfa
Ok, this is from left field..... How about pads or gloves for your fingers? Foam? Just a random thought.
2016/12/14 12:28:42
tlw
Might lighter sticks help?
2016/12/14 15:41:04
dwardzala
tlw
Might lighter sticks help?

Its not that kind of drum pad.  Its a 16 pad midi controller.  My fingers are my fingers (although there are a couple of suggestions up thread that might be interesting.)
 
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