2015/04/24 23:02:37
jeff oliver
Hey gang! Don't know how this will go over but here it goes. I use to build computers back in the day when you really had to if you wanted to run a DAW. Off the shelf was ridiculous. I worked on others computers as well and viruses was common. I mean all the time! I always suspected the virus protection vendors as the main ones putting these puppies out. I still do. However, now that the trend is everything going web-based I figured most of the common viruses would have to go in order to gain the trust of the consumer to be online with their precious computer. And from where I stand it would "seem" to be the case. I have two HP laptops for studio work and a home computer. No virus software on any of them! My studio computers do not have email installed and I'm still cautious not to visit any sites other than what's necessary. I have Sonar of course! IK multimedia SampleTank, Amplitude, Komplete 8 and a few others. I have not had a virus, at least not detectable, for over 5 years! I did do a system restore on my home computer once so I guess it was one virus that effected my email. So, am I crazy not to have virus protection? Do you? If so, what brand. Norton was too intrusive back in the day and I believe it still is. My computers are running smooth as ever! So please let me know what you think. I'll take my chances on NOT having virus protection at all other than the windows 8 stock. Also, I want to thank so many of you for helping me as I read other post I learn so much!  
2015/04/24 23:15:46
mudgel
Lots of folks seem to run Microsoft Essentials Another popular one is Avast, AVG and for malware there's Malwarebytes. They all have a free version which is also usable.

Even today Norton and Macafee still seem far too intrusive at least in my opinion, but it's also what I've gleaned from a lot of other opinions stated here on the forum.
2015/04/24 23:22:11
jeff oliver
Totally agree about MacAfee as well. Can't even move your mouse without a pop-up. Exaggeration but you get my point. Maybe after I get bit I'll try one of those you mentioned. Thanks!
2015/04/24 23:31:24
jih64
I have only ever had 1 virus, (that I know of, if there were others they must have been good virus's, because they never affected me) I think that was in '98. On this laptop that I am using now I have Avast antivirus installed, and on my other laptop as well, never switched on any windows stuff, actually make sure it is switched off is my first move. Don't have any Firewalls installed or use any other virus, malware, etc etc stuff, never have. There is a firewall thingy or something in the router, don't know much about it, but it's there doing whatever it does.
 
My 2 music PC's are connected to the net, although it's just for the basic stuff that needs to be done, updating/installing any progs or plugins that do it from within, but they don't 'surf the web' as such, no Email or anything. I have nothing on them, no antivirus, firewall, malware etc stuff, but they do go through the routers firewall thingy. Any actual manual downloading or web browsing gets done on the laptops, then I just transfer any files over to the 2 PC's when needed.
 
That's the way I have always had things, I feel safe. But if I was to give advice, I would say get yourself a good virus scanner, maybe set up your firewall, but the way I look at it is if you are careful and don't go to places you know you shouldn't, don't go opening Emails you know nothing about, stay clear of cracks and warez etc etc,  you are stacking the odds considerably in your own favor.
 
So go get yourself an antivirus, I can recommend Avast, it's free, or you can pay for the bells and whistles if you like, kick in your firewall, and use common sense when on the net.
2015/04/25 01:17:45
jeff oliver
Thanks for the advice. You think largely like I do. Just don't surf around much or really at all and no emails open on it. Grandma use to say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". LOL! My original position is I think viruses is just another money making scheme. When the industry dictates it can no longer have any viruses they will disappear like a vapor. Now its quite tolerable, I guess until I get a virus! Much appreciated! If you ever tried to disable Norton the computer will go crazy. You have to uninstall it completely.
2015/04/25 01:22:06
TomHelvey
I use Webroot Secure Anywhere, it doesn't get in the way.
2015/04/25 01:24:20
jih64
Norton is a virus unto itself, and IMO should be labeled as such, it's hideous, My sister in law and a couple of other people I know who's computers were playing up had Norton, removed that and all was good.
2015/04/25 01:48:07
thaddeusjon
Sustem Mechanic Pro. Go to their website and make your own decision.
2015/04/25 01:49:18
thaddeusjon
System Mechanic Pro. Go to their website and make your own decision.
2015/04/25 01:54:51
jeff oliver
Its a crime that there's no law for...yet. Or at least is being grossly overlooked. It's not a crime to create a virus, only to infect someone with it. But then what's the purpose. Except in Japan I believe where it is a crime to even create one. I could be wrong but they have taken a more serious step than we have in stopping this. And yes, Norton is the worst!!!
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