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2017/12/08 00:40:45
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Jeff Evans
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I am loving Samplitude. I bought Studio One first before I heard about the deal. I wish I hadn't. It's a pile of pants in comparison.

 
Opinion only definitely not fact.  It is fully fledged DAW that is excellent to use and capable of producing as fine as quality result as any other DAW.  In fact midi wise after looking into things Samplitude may not be for those who are into using external midi hardware and rely on a solid and well featured midi side for their method of creating music.
That has been mentioned before.  There are plenty other great audio biased DAW's out there such as Nuendo for example.  But you can see where Cubase for example might fit into other peoples workflow compared to Nuendo say. They are different and do different things.
 
Studio One is strong and powerful in both audio and midi operations.  It all basically comes down to who is driving it and how much they know about it.  Samplitude is also a fine DAW for sure.  But for someone who has used Studio One for a while and knows it well, switching to Samplitude would not necessarily be a smart decision.  I see no reason for example to change to it.  Just another learning curve to basically do what I am doing right now.  And in some areas probably not as well. You guys though have a real need so I understand why it would be a great choice.  Do some deep research though before just jumping on no brainer deals. 
 
If you buy too many DAW's, you will end up with a bunch of them that you won't use and in the end you will probably be using one for almost everything, which you can do of course. 
 


Sure it's opinion. As is your take on Samplitude and your bias toward S1. Samplitude is miles more featured and certainly has no lack of midi features. It has full support for external midi instruments and controllers and external effects. Which is more than I can say for Studio One. I'm not knocking Studio One. It's great for someone who doesn't need the more advanced features some other DAWs offer, but it's a handicap if you do. I spent good money on Studio One Pro too, so I don't have a bias here.
2017/12/08 00:44:15
GregRband
subtlearts
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I am loving Samplitude. I bought Studio One first before I heard about the deal. I wish I hadn't. It's a pile of pants in comparison.


It's really interesting. I had the opposite experience. I have had a strange bus against Studio One for a while now, I tried to get into it a few years back but found it opaque, and I have a friend who rates Samplitude pretty highly so when I saw the deal I installed the demo. I really wanted and tried to like it but while I could see the depth and quality of it, it ran like crap on my system and felt sluggish, whereas Studio One was quick and responsive and all of a sudden I was leaning in that direction. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on S1 when I saw the thread about Reaper and thought, yeah, you know, I have always had a soft spot for the Punk DAW, I shouldd give it another look... And suddenly, at the end of a long process of trying to settle on where I might hang my hat now that Sonar is going belly up... I am pretty sure it's going to be Reaper for me. YMMV but seriously, it's pretty incredible what that 11mB install delivers!

Interesting on the experience you had... I would say mine has been opposite of yours with S13Pro I own, not necessarily sluggish, but more heavy on system resources than other daws I own in certain times on my humble computers. It’s a great software for sure, but aren’t they all really...... just different.
I own too many already, but I went for the Magix super deal and I love it. It wasn’t slow by any means, but I have to say after I got all the content finally loaded and in place, I did two hard drive defrags that took awhile.... it’s super fast now, low resources too, works for me!
2017/12/08 00:44:32
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subtlearts
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I am loving Samplitude. I bought Studio One first before I heard about the deal. I wish I hadn't. It's a pile of pants in comparison.


It's really interesting. I had the opposite experience. I have had a strange bus against Studio One for a while now, I tried to get into it a few years back but found it opaque, and I have a friend who rates Samplitude pretty highly so when I saw the deal I installed the demo. I really wanted and tried to like it but while I could see the depth and quality of it, it ran like crap on my system and felt sluggish, whereas Studio One was quick and responsive and all of a sudden I was leaning in that direction. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on S1 when I saw the thread about Reaper and thought, yeah, you know, I have always had a soft spot for the Punk DAW, I shouldd give it another look... And suddenly, at the end of a long process of trying to settle on where I might hang my hat now that Sonar is going belly up... I am pretty sure it's going to be Reaper for me. YMMV but seriously, it's pretty incredible what that 11mB install delivers!

What is your system? Samplitude flies along on mine. It loads way faster than Sonar did and faster than S1 for me. Also way more stable than Sonar and S1 for me. It's all horses for courses at the end of the day. The best DAW is the one that you can be most productive with and enjoy using most.
2017/12/08 00:44:41
mikedocy
The 149 dollar sale has been extended to Dec 20.
2017/12/08 01:24:08
Jeff Evans
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Sure it's opinion. As is your take on Samplitude and your bias toward S1. Samplitude is miles more featured and certainly has no lack of midi features. It has full support for external midi instruments and controllers and external effects. Which is more than I can say for Studio One. I'm not knocking Studio One. It's great for someone who doesn't need the more advanced features some other DAWs offer, but it's a handicap if you do. I spent good money on Studio One Pro too, so I don't have a bias here.

 
The problem here is you don't know Studio One very well.  It is way more featured than you think. You have not spent the time with it so your assessment of it is a bit incorrect. I would say it is on a similar footing. 
 
The thing with Studio One is the depth and features are well hidden in many cases. You just have to know how to access them that is all.  Other DAW's make the features much more obvious and clear.  But the tradeoff there is clutter compared to Studio One.
 
Not interested in getting into a war about it but I have 6 years of deep experience with Studio One compared to yourself.  You could list all the features of Samplitude and I bet I could mirror most of them in Studio One and the ones that seem not to be available are usually solved with a clever and elegant workaround.
 
For someone starting out though I can see Samplitude being an excellent choice.  It is not so much about features because they are there in Studio One also,  it is more about that DAW resonating with you.
 
As Hans Zimmer quoted "the best DAW for you is the one you know"
 
2017/12/08 01:53:50
DaGeek
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subtlearts
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I am loving Samplitude. I bought Studio One first before I heard about the deal. I wish I hadn't. It's a pile of pants in comparison.


It's really interesting. I had the opposite experience. I have had a strange bus against Studio One for a while now, I tried to get into it a few years back but found it opaque, and I have a friend who rates Samplitude pretty highly so when I saw the deal I installed the demo. I really wanted and tried to like it but while I could see the depth and quality of it, it ran like crap on my system and felt sluggish, whereas Studio One was quick and responsive and all of a sudden I was leaning in that direction. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on S1 when I saw the thread about Reaper and thought, yeah, you know, I have always had a soft spot for the Punk DAW, I shouldd give it another look... And suddenly, at the end of a long process of trying to settle on where I might hang my hat now that Sonar is going belly up... I am pretty sure it's going to be Reaper for me. YMMV but seriously, it's pretty incredible what that 11mB install delivers!

What is your system? Samplitude flies along on mine. It loads way faster than Sonar did and faster than S1 for me. Also way more stable than Sonar and S1 for me. It's all horses for courses at the end of the day. The best DAW is the one that you can be most productive with and enjoy using most.


The demo installs both 32bit and 64bit icons. The 32bit was indeed sluggish but 64bit flies in comparison. He may have run the 32bit since that one is just labeled Samplitude Pro X3 Suite. 
2017/12/08 02:14:19
Kev914
So is it OK to have more than one DAW on a machine?
 
And is there anyway to have Samplitude install the instruments on the D drive instead of the C drive? My C drive is a SS. It's not that big. I installed Samplitude on the D drive, but the few instruments I have loaded have all gone to the C drive. No matter what I try. I added a path in the preferences for the VST and they still went to the C drive. If there is no way to install them to the D drive then I guess I won't be using this program. Seems like a good deal, but right now I'm wishing I hadn't bought it. Makes me wish Sonar hadn't gone belly up.
 
I was happy with Sonar. It was the only DAW that I have ever used. And when I search online for the best DAWs, it was listed as Number 2 on the one site and Number 6 on another, so it's hard to understand why it failed.
 
I have sent Magix a support request and I did ask on their forum, but so far no one has answered.
2017/12/08 02:35:52
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Jeff Evans
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Sure it's opinion. As is your take on Samplitude and your bias toward S1. Samplitude is miles more featured and certainly has no lack of midi features. It has full support for external midi instruments and controllers and external effects. Which is more than I can say for Studio One. I'm not knocking Studio One. It's great for someone who doesn't need the more advanced features some other DAWs offer, but it's a handicap if you do. I spent good money on Studio One Pro too, so I don't have a bias here.

 
The problem here is you don't know Studio One very well.  It is way more featured than you think. You have not spent the time with it so your assessment of it is a bit incorrect. I would say it is on a similar footing. 
 
The thing with Studio One is the depth and features are well hidden in many cases. You just have to know how to access them that is all.  Other DAW's make the features much more obvious and clear.  But the tradeoff there is clutter compared to Studio One.
 
Not interested in getting into a war about it but I have 6 years of deep experience with Studio One compared to yourself.  You could list all the features of Samplitude and I bet I could mirror most of them in Studio One and the ones that seem not to be available are usually solved with a clever and elegant workaround.
 
For someone starting out though I can see Samplitude being an excellent choice.  It is not so much about features because they are there in Studio One also,  it is more about that DAW resonating with you.
 
As Hans Zimmer quoted "the best DAW for you is the one you know"
 


Yes, no war necessary, but I could say the same back to you about you not knowing Samplitude very well. Everything you have said about it so far suggests you have never used it seriously for any amount of time. And "For someone starting out though I can see Samplitude being an excellent choice", is completely insane! For someone just starting out, I would suggest Studio One. Samplitude Pro X would be too much for a novice. I started out in the 80's.
 
"The problem here is you don't know Studio One very well.  It is way more featured than you think. You have not spent the time with it so your assessment of it is a bit incorrect. I would say it is on a similar footing. "
 
I have now had Studio One and Samplitude for the same amount of time and have been using them both. So I am perfectly able to make an unbiased comparison. There are several well-known facts that can't be argued with; Samplitude has been around for decades and has had much more time to develop its feature set. Studio One is a much more recent addition and hasn't had time to develop the same feature set as the higher end DAWs. The audio engine in Samplitude is one of the best in the industry. Studio One cannot handle the load as well as Samplitude - I've tested that.
 
"The thing with Studio One is the depth and features are well hidden in many cases. You just have to know how to access them that is all.  Other DAW's make the features much more obvious and clear.  But the tradeoff there is clutter compared to Studio One."
 
Well, if the features are there, but are well hidden that's a bit of a non-starter for me. I don't have time to play hide 'n seek while I am working. I need to access features quickly and intuitively. There is no clutter - just features! You seem to be making the argument that chucking away half the spanners in your toolbox is advantageous because it makes the toolbox less cluttered and easier to carry.
 
"You could list all the features of Samplitude and I bet I could mirror most of them in Studio One and the ones that seem not to be available are usually solved with a clever and elegant workaround."
 
No, you couldn't. I have tried. I would love to know how to set up my external hardware in S1, specifically my M-audio ProjectMix. I can set it up as a Makie device just fine, but I have no way of programming the button assignments for controlling the DAW. All I can find is basic midi learn features that will work ok with my controller keyboard for basic stuff. Tell me where I can find the extensive metering and analyzers that Samplitude has built-into the GUI, in S1? Tell me where I can find an editable midi event list in S1? Tell me how to do spectral editing in the timeline of Studio One... the list goes on.
 
'As Hans Zimmer quoted "the best DAW for you is the one you know"'
 
Hans Zimmer uses Cubase! :)
 
I'm glad Studio One has worked out for you. I think it can only get better as time goes on, and I will be using it here and there - I want to get my money's worth! But having the choice, it looks like I'll be using Samplitude for the serious, heavy lifting. Good luck.
2017/12/08 02:43:04
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Kev914
So is it OK to have more than one DAW on a machine?
 
And is there anyway to have Samplitude install the instruments on the D drive instead of the C drive? My C drive is a SS. It's not that big. I installed Samplitude on the D drive, but the few instruments I have loaded have all gone to the C drive. No matter what I try. I added a path in the preferences for the VST and they still went to the C drive. If there is no way to install them to the D drive then I guess I won't be using this program. Seems like a good deal, but right now I'm wishing I hadn't bought it. Makes me wish Sonar hadn't gone belly up.
 
I was happy with Sonar. It was the only DAW that I have ever used. And when I search online for the best DAWs, it was listed as Number 2 on the one site and Number 6 on another, so it's hard to understand why it failed.
 
I have sent Magix a support request and I did ask on their forum, but so far no one has answered.


You can have multiple DAWs on your machine. You may not be able to run that all at the same time.
 
The content installer is a pain in the a*se. I had to work out where everything was getting installed to on the C drive, then move it to another drive leaving links to it on the C drive. The content for Independence (70GB) takes ages to download. When you first open Independence it will prompt you to download it all, but that does let you choose a path.
2017/12/11 21:44:50
raisindot
Okay, I have no idea of whether this will work, or whether I'll like it or not, but I ordered the DVD set through the special offer on 12/7, and it arrived--from Germany!--today. That's incredible. Especially since shipping was free.
 
How come whenever I order something in the US it always, always take 5 days to get here via UPS or Fedex, even if it's shipped from the next state over?
 
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